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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2019, 02:37:37 pm »
I agree that Becky was thoroughly, thoroughly obnoxious, rude, and out of line.  I would be plenty steamed if I were Mae.

But I also agree that "banning" them from ever staying again -- we are talking about a brother, here -- is an overreaction. 

As others have pointed out, though, we don't know what that means.  If I were in Mae's place, and assuming the husband is on board with it, maybe I just wouldn't invite them next time, or if it's sort of a regular visit, I might say something like, "You weren't comfortable here last time; would you like me to find a B&B for you this time?" 

I don't see the point of a "ban" if it means a never-ever-again policy, though.  That is going to hurt Mom and the brothers, too, remember.  What Becky deserves isn't the whole story.   

Most of all, there just isn't any need or reason to announce a policy at all.  That would just be reaching for unnecessary drama, descending to Becky's level, and making everything even worse.  Someone did something really rude; that doesn't mean that there has to be a response.  The LW has the high ground now; why sacrifice it to gain nothing?

I personally would never invite Becky to my home again, but I wouldn't announce it. I just wouldn't invite her, and would say no if she asked to stay. I wouldn't offer to find her somewhere else to stay either. I would just never invite her over, and tell her no if she asked.
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2019, 05:09:39 pm »
I agree that Becky was thoroughly, thoroughly obnoxious, rude, and out of line.  I would be plenty steamed if I were Mae.

But I also agree that "banning" them from ever staying again -- we are talking about a brother, here -- is an overreaction. 

As others have pointed out, though, we don't know what that means.  If I were in Mae's place, and assuming the husband is on board with it, maybe I just wouldn't invite them next time, or if it's sort of a regular visit, I might say something like, "You weren't comfortable here last time; would you like me to find a B&B for you this time?" 

I don't see the point of a "ban" if it means a never-ever-again policy, though.  That is going to hurt Mom and the brothers, too, remember.  What Becky deserves isn't the whole story.   

Most of all, there just isn't any need or reason to announce a policy at all.  That would just be reaching for unnecessary drama, descending to Becky's level, and making everything even worse.  Someone did something really rude; that doesn't mean that there has to be a response.  The LW has the high ground now; why sacrifice it to gain nothing?

I personally would never invite Becky to my home again, but I wouldn't announce it. I just wouldn't invite her, and would say no if she asked to stay. I wouldn't offer to find her somewhere else to stay either. I would just never invite her over, and tell her no if she asked.

To me, the "announcing" was done because Mae's husband called his brother and let him know that Mae was furious about the "thank you text" and was probably asking him to get Becky to apologize. It also sounds like LW learned about the contents of the text when his brother called him. Instead of being stunned that his wife would do something so crass, he instead defended her actions as "a minor annoyance at best" and that his wife meant no harm which has now caused his brother to be mad at him.

And I just re-read and realized it was a text and not a hand written note. For some reason, that even seems more offensive to me.
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2019, 07:59:20 pm »
I think the LW's wife sounds snooty and disparaging and mingy and super unpleasant.  I would not be at all surprised to learn that the hosting pair were younger, and the visiting pair were older and more established, and the visiting wife thought it her duty to 'enlighten' her hostess.  I could easily be VERY wrong in my assumptions, but that's the way it came off to me.  There were so many lighter ways to thank the hosting pair that didn't involve a laundry list of 'you done **** up'....  Now there's a rift between the brothers that could easily have been avoided.  Just because LW is willing to put up with that attitude doesn't mean his brother is.

My mother could have sent that letter, and did similarly stern chastising in the past.  Small wonder that none of her family's side but me and my daughters were speaking to her by the time she died!
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2019, 09:41:38 pm »
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My mother could have sent that letter, and did similarly stern chastising in the past.  Small wonder that none of her family's side but me and my daughters were speaking to her by the time she died!

This is very sad, but it is what happens when someone doesn't restrain what they say to people. Hopefully Becky learns from her mistake and doesn't continue giving people unwanted criticism. People can learn, and perhaps in the future Mae will give her another chance.
It really depends on whether Becky's behavior looks like a pattern.
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2019, 09:47:06 pm »
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My mother could have sent that letter, and did similarly stern chastising in the past.  Small wonder that none of her family's side but me and my daughters were speaking to her by the time she died!

This is very sad, but it is what happens when someone doesn't restrain what they say to people. Hopefully Becky learns from her mistake and doesn't continue giving people unwanted criticism. People can learn, and perhaps in the future Mae will give her another chance.
It really depends on whether Becky's behavior looks like a pattern.

If Becky turns out to be one of those people who just can't resist telling everyone else how to do things, it will show in areas other than being an overnight guest. If Mae and her husband see Becky at family events, they'll get an idea whether to go forward with the ban.

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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2019, 02:11:21 am »
I think the LW's wife sounds snooty and disparaging and mingy and super unpleasant.  I would not be at all surprised to learn that the hosting pair were younger, and the visiting pair were older and more established, and the visiting wife thought it her duty to 'enlighten' her hostess.  I could easily be VERY wrong in my assumptions, but that's the way it came off to me.  There were so many lighter ways to thank the hosting pair that didn't involve a laundry list of 'you done **** up'....  Now there's a rift between the brothers that could easily have been avoided.  Just because LW is willing to put up with that attitude doesn't mean his brother is.

My mother could have sent that letter, and did similarly stern chastising in the past.  Small wonder that none of her family's side but me and my daughters were speaking to her by the time she died!

What does "mingy" mean?

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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2019, 02:29:11 am »
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What does "mingy" mean?

I'm interested to know that too. Where I come from it's a portmanteau word made up of 'miserable+stingy'; but it may well mean something else where MM3 lives!

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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2019, 10:12:22 am »
mingy = mean and stingy.
"you've been too mingy with the sunscreen"

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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2019, 07:49:31 pm »
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What does "mingy" mean?

I'm interested to know that too. Where I come from it's a portmanteau word made up of 'miserable+stingy'; but it may well mean something else where MM3 lives!

Nope, that is EXACTLY how I meant it.
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2019, 10:24:44 pm »
I think the LW's wife sounds snooty and disparaging and mingy and super unpleasant.  I would not be at all surprised to learn that the hosting pair were younger, and the visiting pair were older and more established, and the visiting wife thought it her duty to 'enlighten' her hostess.  I could easily be VERY wrong in my assumptions, but that's the way it came off to me.  There were so many lighter ways to thank the hosting pair that didn't involve a laundry list of 'you done **** up'....  Now there's a rift between the brothers that could easily have been avoided.  Just because LW is willing to put up with that attitude doesn't mean his brother is.

My mother could have sent that letter, and did similarly stern chastising in the past.  Small wonder that none of her family's side but me and my daughters were speaking to her by the time she died!

I used to have a friend like that (an ex-friend). She and her husband felt it was their duty to enlighten ignorant me as to how to hang my bath tissue, how to sort my mail, and dozens of other things that felt like little constant jabs all the while they visited me. Never mind I was in my forties, had been married twice, and had been living independently for some time. Their joint attitude was a strong contributor to the eventual death of the friendship. I finally figured out that teacher or guide-mode was their primary way of interacting with others socially, which allowed me to release some of my irritation--but not all. Since then, if any adult feels the need to start instructing me on how to do simple things, I back away from them. I don't want to allow that type of personality into my life (or my home) again.
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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2019, 11:40:15 pm »
mingy = mean and stingy.
"you've been too mingy with the sunscreen"

OK thanks, I've absolutely never seen or heard the word before so I think it sounds kind of odd. Would it be pronounced with a "J" sound on the "G" in the word or is the "G" pronounced as in the word great?

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Re: Carolyn Hax: Guest Banned
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2019, 01:43:31 am »
It's a soft G (= a J sound), as in stingy, grungy, mangy.

I couldn't be sure MM3 and I both understood the same way: as well as mingy, in British slang we also have a (presumably unrelated?) word, minge, which means a woman's pubic hair. I was pretty confident that MM3 didn't mean that! - but where there are two meanings for a word there can easily be three.
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