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Thread conditioner?
« on: May 28, 2020, 11:17:42 pm »
Has anyone ever heard of  thread gloss or thread conditioner?

It looks like a pot of lip gloss and is used to coat floss before using for needlework.
"Thread conditioner binds thread fibers and prevents fraying-and tangling. It adds a thin, even, slick coating to thread so beads slide easily."

I understand the description above is for stringing beads.  But for cross stitch or needlepoint????

Excuse me but I have been doing needlepoint for over half century and cross stitch almost as long and have never ever heard of such a product until last week when a friend who does not stitch looked up this item for a mutual friend who is a novice needlepointer and complained her fibers were getting caught in the needlepoint canvas.

Wouldn't coating the fibers in something waxy make a mess of things?

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Re: Thread conditioner?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2020, 06:08:05 am »
Agreed this would be disastrous on needlepoint. Have also done all sorts of needlework for decades.While I have occasionally used a smidgen of beeswax on the end of a sewing thread to stiffen it while threading a normal sewing needle, am thinking that the novice may be using cheap mono canvas, badly-sized canvas, or too many strands of whatever wool yarn/other thread. There should be no reason to use this stuff for needlepoint. In addition,I would think the finished work would attract dirt like crazy.I have made it a practice to wash my hands before stitching light-colored areas, as even a small amount of oil from the fingers discolors that area.

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Re: Thread conditioner?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2020, 09:39:57 am »
I have wanted to try it for hand-sewing (mending, clothing construction) because I thought it might keep my thread from tangling. I do try to coat my thread with beeswax so it won't tangle, but that doesn't always work.

But I haven't tried it. I was excited to see your post.

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Re: Thread conditioner?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 11:58:47 am »
I can remember drawing threads through a block of beeswax, and my grandmother doing the same, but this was years ago, and I'm now wracking my brains to remember why...

I have a feeling it was for sewing on buttons, to protect the thread from rubbing?  But this was back in the day when all sewing threads [that we used] were cotton.  Now I tend to use the Gutterman threads that contain some man-made strengthening element.

I can't imaging it would nice using that on embroidery.

But of course, conditioner may be a whole different thing.
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Re: Thread conditioner?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 03:15:28 am »
I still do pull my hand-sewing thread through a block of beeswax, because I almost always sew natural fabrics and use matchingly natural thread on principle. It does help the thread pass through any slubs in the fabric without snagging. (Another old-fashioned trick is to pull the thread through one's hair; the natural oils in the hair do the same job as beeswax.)

Rho, I agree that coating embroidery thread - particularly woollen thread - in something waxy would surely make the work messy. But maybe this stuff isn't waxy? I've never encountered thread gloss/conditioner, but I'm thinking that perhaps it might be something more like hair serum, which uses silicone to smooth the fibres? I can see how that might be effective.

A long time ago I embroidered my wedding dress; the only project I've ever done in real floss silk on silk. I used more hand cream in the months it took me to do that than I normally would in a decade, because I found that the most microscopic roughness in my skin - even roughness that my own fingertips didn't register - would snag the floss. I'd have tried just about any product that promised to smooth the floss and at least lessen its tendency to snag!
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Re: Thread conditioner?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 05:51:34 pm »
Thread conditioner is great stuff when you use it correctly. The most popular of them was Thread Heaven, but it's been discontinued.  I agree that for needlepoint it's no use, but it's not designed to be used on wool.  If you were needlepointing with floss it would be fine.

The single most wonderful use for the stuff is cross stitching with metallics or light effects.  The three things I tell everyone who gets frustrated working with metallics is, use thread conditioner, shorter than normal strands, and allow to untwist very regularly.

I don't know what it's made of but definitely not beeswax.  But it is amazing.  Rho, if you want to try it, your best bet is your LNS* which should have good recommendations.

*local needlework store
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