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https://www.reddit.com/r/pettyrevenge/comments/13cbo97/aita_for_changing_my_mind_about_kicking_people/

AITA for changing my mind about kicking people out of line, who were cutting into it, at a Vendor event?
Apparently AITA has a 3k word limit... I don't feel like cutting half of what I wrote, so here we are. Bonus points if someone recognizes me, and can name the city/main act at the event.

Hello,
I'm happy to accept an **** judgment, just genuinely curious. I'm also posting under my main account.. wonder if anyone recognizes me!
Years ago, I was at an undisclosed conference for work. At these events, meals are always provided. A potentially contributing factor, is that breakfast was incredibly bare bones; I'm talking all visual, and a no mass kind of breakfast... To make it worse, lunch as about three hours late. Thousands of hungry people, and hot weather aren't always a great combination..

Side note: Please don't accept this as an excuse for my behavior, I'm just trying to set the scene.. People were beginning to get a bit beyond frustrated.
Finally, the announcement was made that lunch was being served, and instructions were given, to line up to be served at the three buffet tables. Yes, a few thousand people, lining up at three buffet tables. My coworkers/colleagues opted to hang back until the long lines subsided, but I was very hungry, and chose not to wait.

There I was, in line with roughly a hundred or so people in front of me. This is when a handful of people grouped up beside the line nearly immediately in front of me, and were having a conversation. This caught my attention, because the line behind me was growing by the second, and I just knew they that once they noticed, they were going to try to cut in front of me and the other properly queued people.

My assumptions were quickly realized, when they began to look at the length of the line, and collectively/wordlessly merged with the line. They jumped in about 2-3 people in front of me, and one of them even made sustained eye contact with one of me while doing so... It was incredulous. I gave the guy a "you serious bruh?" expression, and he shrugged his shoulders at me.. I mean the nerve.. I can remember looking around me, to my other properly queued allies, but I received nothing more than an acknowledging frown. It was obviously up to me..

I began "You guys can't be serious.. The back of the line is back there." followed by me pointing over my shoulder with my thumb. A bit cliché, I admit it, but please don't judge me on being predicable. They all turned to face me, and the girl of the group said. "Are you serious." before looking me up and down and scoffing.. As if I had "the nerve" to question "Them". Them being the attractive group of people, who were obviously involved in "Sales"... You know.. The spoiled lot in the business world.. the "entitled children", if you will....

I stood firm, however. I wasn't about to let this wrong be ignored, and allow this group of "Sales People" get away with their horrific transgression. This wasn't middle school, this was a business "Conference". A place of dignity, and class. A place where one represented their company with a certain composure. (I later learned that this was not true in the least, however it was my first year, and I had yet to witness the "event" night, and the drunken escapades of people getting what was essentially a hall pass from their children... aka drunken, out of control 30-60 year old's).

So, there I was being stared down by a handful of the "upper" class of the business world, the "Sales Team". They giggled at me; My incredulousness amused them, and they weren't taking me seriously. I persevered in the face of their utter bullshit. "This isn't a joke, and you aren't children. Get in the back of the line, and stop acting like you're entitled to jumping in line. What you're doing is absolutely pathetic, and I can't believe I have to speak up... Get moving."

One of the guys meekly said something along the lines of "Well, you're the only one that seems to have a problem." I scoffed.. I genuinely did.. What a **** statement.. I mean really... Who wouldn't have a problem with it.. I mean.. I may have been the one that spoke up, but obviously, the others in line took issue with what they were doing.

I smiled, and looked around me.... "Ok then.. who else thinks they're a bunch of ****?" Silence... utter silence.. The other people in line.. The very people whose queuing rights, and dignity I had spoken on behalf of, were averting their eyes from me.. Like cowering dogs they chose to not support me, despite how I had supported them... The betrayal I felt in that moment was indescribable....

Here's where I might be the ****.. My speech had gotten the group of attractive sales people to begin to withdrawal themselves reluctantly from the line. I had won, but to say it was a bitter sweet victory would be the understatement of the century.... See, one of the things I can't stand more than people cutting in line, is a group of people not standing up for themselves, especially if they weren't the first to speak out. I'd laid the ground work.. I had their backs, and they couldn't so much as look me in the eyes; They all ignored me as if they were afraid of me. :( The very people whom I was trying to protect.

So, I lost it a tad. I said something like, "Oh.. wait.. Hold on a second... Apparently I'm in the wrong, and you guys are right... I'm soooo sorry.. See.. here I thought that cutting in line was wrong, but as seeing as me, the only person out of the hundreds in line have taken an issue with it, I must be in the wrong.. You guys are obviously in the right, my bad.. I'm soooo sorry. No.. no no no no.. Don't get out of line.. Where are you going.. No no no.. You guys belong in front of us.."

One of the Sales guys said.. "Well.. Why don't you get in front of us.", and I replied.. "Oh, no.. Wouldn't dream of it.. That would make me a hypocrite.. I'm not cutting in front of the people between us. You guys enjoy your place. Enjoy you're place in line despite the people that had lined up five our so minutes before you.. You earned it.."

So, I didn't hear a word from the other people I was in line with. I also made sure to emphasize that I hoped the "Sales People" enjoyed their meal, as they were collecting it from the buffet. I may have sarcastically apologized as the last one of the group walked off as well.
So reddit, how do you judge me? :) AITA?

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Announcements / MOVED: It’s been a hard few months
« on: January 27, 2022, 11:43:05 am »
This topic has been moved to [Hugs Please!!!].

https://badmanners.createaforum.com/index.php?topic=2265.0

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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 16, 2020, 01:25:59 pm »
So, like, a troll in the sense of the whole story being made up from the get-go just to stir up responses in the forum?  Or a troll in the sense of starting out with at least some real story or question but then digging in and embellishing when they didn’t get the answer or support they hoped for?

Sorry if I’m misunderstanding the term “troll” — I am fortunate to have little experience with them.

Either way, pretty “meta” given that the topic was about excessive need for attention.   :)

Ha!  So true!

False from the get-go.  I don't want to say too much, honestly.  I think if you read through her posts in retrospect, you can see that she was trolling--pushing buttons to get an emotional response.  And I think you are correct that it was done for attention, or possibly out of boredom.

It's her behavior that was wrong.  People here behaved correctly, even if they crossed lines because they were being manipulated.  Misusing someone's natural empathy, their quickness to defend someone they feel is being piled upon, but also misusing the concern people have to be brave enough to offer what they know is harsh criticism--for entertainment, is just disgusting.

And I realize it happens all the time.  And there may have been trolling that I have missed on here.  Some people are truly masters at it.  But, it's just part of being on the internet.

But, I truly appreciate and salute all of you who gave of yourselves, were empathetic, caring, tough, and concerned--THAT was REAL!!!!  THAT was TRUE!!!! 

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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 16, 2020, 12:07:07 pm »
This was a troll -- sorry folks!

It was an interesting discussion anyway because there *are* people out there raising spoiled little princesses. If they read this thread, maybe they'll recognize themselves.

Let's not give trolls redeeming values.  This wasn't just a discussion, it was a thread that had to be heavily moderated and a lot of that was due to the behavior of the troll, in the ridiculousness of her story and her responses, the last of which, outed her.

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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 16, 2020, 12:44:14 am »
This was a troll -- sorry folks!


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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 12, 2020, 06:34:08 pm »
Let's all just take a breath.  No one here has any bad intent.  Maybe just refocus a bit and stick to the issues at hand.

While there is no obligation for anyone asking for advice to take the advice that they get, it is important they carefully consider it out of respect for the people who took the time to respond.

By the same token, if you don't feel someone is "getting it" then the onus is on you to either let it go or make your position more clear.

What's not good is attacking the OP, and attacking each other because you don't agree with what they are saying, how they are saying it, etc, etc, etc.

Also remember on Ehell when an OP would become defensive--that's when the fur would fly.  It seems to be a law of the universe.  It's hard for OPs to realize that the more defensive they become, the more that is read as not being open to listening to the advice they asked for in the first place!  It's a downward spiral.

Everyone here is better than that!

So, get this back on track!  :)

The biggest problems arise when some posters tell others what tone they *should* use.

Or when they passively aggressively call out someone they have issues with...

Focus!  FOCUS!!!


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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 12, 2020, 02:24:09 pm »
Aleko, gramma dishes and Jem have hit the nail on the head.  OP, you are exhausting and just not getting it.  The head space, time and energy you are putting into cajoling your child into behaving appropriately is mind boggling.  You have created this behavior and you continue to enable it.

It's never ok to address an OP like this.  If you find someone exhausting go take a nap!   8)

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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: August 12, 2020, 02:20:36 pm »
Let's all just take a breath.  No one here has any bad intent.  Maybe just refocus a bit and stick to the issues at hand.

While there is no obligation for anyone asking for advice to take the advice that they get, it is important they carefully consider it out of respect for the people who took the time to respond.

By the same token, if you don't feel someone is "getting it" then the onus is on you to either let it go or make your position more clear.

What's not good is attacking the OP, and attacking each other because you don't agree with what they are saying, how they are saying it, etc, etc, etc.

Also remember on Ehell when an OP would become defensive--that's when the fur would fly.  It seems to be a law of the universe.  It's hard for OPs to realize that the more defensive they become, the more that is read as not being open to listening to the advice they asked for in the first place!  It's a downward spiral.

Everyone here is better than that!

So, get this back on track!  :)
 

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Weddings / Re: Honorary Flower Girl - Sorta?
« on: July 30, 2020, 05:52:16 pm »
How are people seeing the suit?  I don’t see a link.

Was the "Dumb" button on Gellcom's question a mistake?

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Life in General / Re: Grocery Shopping Etiquette - Pandemic Style
« on: April 12, 2020, 06:34:53 pm »
I might have to try that - or make my own bleach wipes by putting that solution in a container with paper towel.  I've got a roll of wipes, left from the previous owner, that will be sturdier than paper towel.

I was told that you can dump a bottle of isopropyl alcohol in a container of baby wipes and make 'Lysol' wipes.  But I can't find isopropyl alcohol, either.   ::)

You can also spray surfaces with hydrogen peroxide to kill the virus.  Not sure that it would work to soak paper towels in it though.

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Life in General / Re: Grocery Shopping Etiquette - Pandemic Style
« on: April 03, 2020, 10:55:00 am »
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It's not an established fact that this is an airborne virus to the point that anyone will get it just by breathing.  And if that is the case, a mask from etsy is not going to offer you any protection from it.

It will offer you SOME protection from it.
Don't tell me it won't. It's not perfect, but if it only cuts the risk by 20%, you should wear it.

If it had no effectiveness at all, why would my dentist wear one? Why would my mom's doctor have told her to wear one on the plane to cut down the risk of her breathing in germs after her spleen removal?

And it WILL reduce the risk that you will infect others--if it had no efficacy at all, then the Mayo Clinic and other hospitals and doctors' offices wouldn't provide masks and request that they be worn by people who have a cough?

You MUST NOT rely on a mask to be 100%. But it SHOULD be part of your "complete breakfast," along with keeping your distance, washing your hands, and staying home.

The efficacy one demands in a hospital setting as a caregiver is high. But for everyone else, something is better than nothing.

I was responding to the assertion that this virus is so transmissible that you can get it from just breathing the air, which is why I prefaced my comments by saying "if that is the case..." 

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that certain measures are useless in the situation that we are in.

Social distancing, wearing some kind of barrier and above all, frequently washing your hands and not touching your face does offer a great deal of protection if you must go out.  (Especially don't touch your face--eyes, nose, mouth--we tend to infect ourselves just by touching with dirty hands!)

But, if you're in a high risk group, or you live in a hot spot, the best thing to do is stay home.  Don't play the odds.  Stay home, stay healthy.

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Life in General / Re: Grocery Shopping Etiquette - Pandemic Style
« on: April 03, 2020, 01:11:10 am »
I’ve been an RN for 45 years now and have some alarming information.  This virus is airborne and requires a mask, goggles and gloves to go into any store for any reason.   This is the standard, nothing less.  Children should not be in stores for any reason.

Figure out a mask that works and wear it it may save your life, Etsy sells sewn masks or you can sew your own. In the beginning the CDC and WHO lied to the American public about the need for mandatory masks and it’s why so many people are dying.

Mask up and only get groceries once a week or like I do, every two weeks to keep your viral load low.  The higher the viral load you have the worse you will fare.

The American response to the virus has been such an unmitigated, negligent disaster I plan to mask, glove and goggle until there is a vaccine.  This disease is going to churn through America for months to come and anyone who says it’s going to be over in two week or a month is lying to your face.

It's not an established fact that this is an airborne virus to the point that anyone will get it just by breathing.  And if that is the case, a mask from etsy is not going to offer you any protection from it.

Surgical masks, scarfs, bandanas, they won't filter out a virus.  For that you need an N-95 or better.  And if you have a beard, you need to shave it because it will come through the beard.  It has to be properly fitted.
 
My husband works with PPE all the time with things that are far deadlier than this virus.

It's mystifying to me that Dr Fineberg would make a statement like that, that it's transmissible by simply breathing the air but that he's going to wear a bandana to go to the store.  Ridiculous!
 
If you are in one of the risk groups, stay at home.  Let someone else do the shopping--preferably someone you do not have contact with.

Wearing a mask might offer some protection but if this is as deadly and transmissible as Shores and Dr Fineberg are asserting, you need much better protection.  And if you go out in that bandana, you'd better be cleaning it pretty well because if it's been exposed to an airborne virus, the mask itself can infect you.

Duke University uses aerosolized hydrogen peroxide to disinfect used masks so that they can be reused which will really help with having enough masks.

The point is that to really protect yourself from deadly pathogens, you need proper PPE and that PPE needs to be cleaned once it's been exposed.
 
We really don't know for sure whether this is that transmissible.  And because we really don't know, the best thing to do is just stay home.  Order out for your groceries.  Stay away from other people.  And if you are high risk, stay away from everyone. Don't take the chance!!!

Stay home!  Live!


PPE means "Personal protective equipment"

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A post that violated this rule has been removed.  I thought I would post it again as a reminder.

Thank-you to those who reported it!

READ ME


Stick strictly to the topic at hand of how this OP can try and handle her father's comments. 

Any posts that go off on tangents, soap-boxing, or agendas will be removed.

Think very carefully before you post.

Thank-you.



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Announcements / Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
« on: November 27, 2019, 11:52:55 pm »
I'd like to express my gratitude for everyone here for being so lovely to one another and keeping this place humming along!!!

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Entertaining and Hospitality / Re: But But I don't want to eat that.......
« on: November 08, 2019, 07:00:39 pm »
I joke about disease all the time. Without getting into gross details, sometimes it's either laugh or cry. I'd rather not cry.

Also, I find it rather disturbing how some people are so eager to dogpile on what was obviously an attempt at humor that may (or may not) have fallen flat (I understood where Toots was coming from).

I don't understand this impulse to assume the worst, especially in somebody who has been nothing but gracious and kind. 

It would be nice if we could assume the best.  You know, show a little grace.


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