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Family and Children / Re: Not interested in being friends
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:18:24 am »
I hope it doesn't seem like you just got here and everyone is grilling you. But, I have another question. Do these kids your daughter doesn't like invite her or the other kids over to play at their house? If so, what are the answers and reasons they give if they don't want to?

It's a tough situation. Your description makes it clear as to why these kids don't seem to be well liked in the neighborhood. But, I also feel sorry for them, they must feel like they are being deliberately snubbed and probably don't understand why.

They never invite my daughter over to play. I am not sure if they invite others over. Most of the time, all of the kids are just outside playing together.

I do feel for these kids too. They're also the youngest of 6 or 7 kids, so I think they're just doing the things that get them attention from their older siblings.

I don't feel grilled at all.  :) I really appreciate the help!

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Family and Children / Re: Not interested in being friends
« on: September 28, 2021, 04:33:30 pm »
Thanks for the nice welcome here and I really appreciate you all taking time to help. I couldn't figure out how to insert the quotes without making it messy so I answered questions below in bold text.

Is your daughter at her best friend's house and the other kids are around and your daughter suggests going to her home? No, she knows that it would not be OK to do this. It's more that BF's mom will text me to see if BF can come over to play or vice versa. So more like a scheduled play date.

Is there other neighborhood kids who are all migrating to your daughter's house and the only kids being excluded are these neighbors? Not really. This group of kids all live practically next door to each other. We live down the street but it's a long street, so people usually text to play here before they make the trip. My daughter is usually the one to walk down to where the other kids live to play as a group.

Is your daughter playing at her friend's house and the kids are just asking "how come you never invite us over" sort of out of the blue without any specific plans to go to your home? Yes, this is exactly what's happening. "Hey, why did Susie play at your house yesterday but I didn't?" kind of thing.

How does play work at your house? Do kids only come over when invited? Or does it work similar to best friend's house and the kids just show up? Kids tend to come over either because their parents have texted to see if their child can play here or we have texted a parent to see if their child can play here. I would have no problem with kids just showing up here but our house is a little further from everyone else, so they tend to check that we're home before they wander over.

I agree with the others.  It’s one thing not to ask them for individual play dates, quite another to exclude only them from the natural group, and  completely unacceptable to turn them away when the neighborhood kids drift over in a group, as kids do. They're not being excluded from the natural group. If my daughter is playing at a friend's house and these kids come over, they're not excluded and they all play together. My daughter is just trying to figure out how to politely avoid one on one play. I told her to use me as an excuse but nothing we came up with sounded polite.

But I’m curious about why she doesn’t like these kids, which reason seems missing from the first post.  It could color our feelings - e.g., if she doesn’t like them because they beat her up, or if it’s because of their race, to take extreme examples.  It seems odd that the dislike extends to all the kids of this one family.  And the other kids seem to like them. What’s this all about?
The other kids do not like them very much either, but no one tries to exclude them from the group. I don't think they do much one on one play with any of these kids but because they all live closer to each other it's easy to just pop outside and play in the front yard together. I think it's more obvious when a kid or two has migrated to our house because of the distance, then it's like "Hey! Why is Susie at Little Lydia's house and I'm not??" I don't know all of the details but one of the families won't let them play in their yard because they had an issue with their parents when one of the kids fell and it got confrontational. If I'm honest, I'm not eager to welcome the possibility of that either.

As far as why daughter doesn't like them...I think they just annoy her and their personalities clash.  ??? The kids are not bullies exactly, but they're also not exactly nice. Just as an example... one of the uninvited kids asked another kid a question (what's your favorite food?). The kid answered (pizza!). Uninvited kid followed the other kid around, repeating the same question, interrupting others, interrupting play, etc. to repeat this questions over and over and over, while laughing, presumably because she knew it was annoying the others. Another time one kept asking my daughter why her mom (me) is so tall and it upset her. 


I get the set up.  That's how it was in my neighborhood growing up.  A couple of us would be playing and someone else would show up and the group could expand to a half dozen kids.  I think it would be incredibly mean to tell them they can't play with the group. They're never excluded from the group; just from one on one play.

How old are the kids involved? All of these kids range from 7-9.

How far apart are the houses? Our house is on one end of the street and all of the rest of these kids are almost side by side down the road. Our house is on the same street but quite a bit further away from everyone else.

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Family and Children / Not interested in being friends
« on: September 27, 2021, 07:26:29 pm »
We live in the same neighborhood as several of my daughter's friends. They all play at each others houses frequently. There is a family who lives next door to my daughter's best friend. My daughter does not like the children in this family. These children are asking my daughter why they are not invited to play at our house when other kids are. Play tends to be casual. One kid will be outside then the other kids will show up and play. Very rarely is anything planned in advance. What are some polite excuses my daughter could use when these kids ask her if they can come to our house?

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