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Technoquette / Facebook - am I obligated to follow up?
« on: November 03, 2024, 09:20:43 pm »
A few weeks ago, I got a friend request on Facebook from Donna Mackenzie (no real names here, obviously). Who is that? I had no idea. Before deleting the request, I did check out her page. Kids listed included Luke Whitmer and Aaron Whitmer. Wait a minute! I know them, and I used to work with their mother: Donna Whitmer! Oh, my gosh, she must have gotten divorced and remarried. (Now, there is the whole gripe I have about people sending friend requests without even hinting that I would know them under a different name, but I guess that's just me).

Donna and I worked together when I first started working for the state, about 20 or more years ago. Avoiding a lot of detail, but we were fairly close, but life happens. So I accepted the request. Then I was getting ready for my annual craft retreat, and didn't reach out. I saw a few of her posts and I would think, "Oh, I really should message her." Then I would remember another thing I needed to pack for the retreat and would forget. Finally, last week, I got a DM from her: "It's been a long time. How are you?" I replied that I was doing fine, and asked her how she was doing.

And that was it. So, I used to be more of a people pleaser, and part of me is saying, "You should really reach out." But my life is pretty full, and I guess I am asking myself if I should feel guilty for returning the ball to her side of the court and letting her make it clear if she wants to reopen the friendship.

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I would send to her work address, and put a very simple message in it ("Thinking of you," is fine). I would not include my address (either physical or email in the card) because to me it would feel like I were hinting for her to contact me back, and I would want to show her that the door is there if she wants but no obligation. However, on the envelope, I would place my name and address. The info is there if she chooses to follow through, while at the same time, if she wants to be no contact with me, she sees who the envelope is from and can pitch it without opening it.

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Life in General / Re: WHAT is that person doing?
« on: April 18, 2024, 09:24:54 pm »
All four of us older adults who live in my house use a grocery store plastic bag to dump our bathroom trashcan into, tie it up and place it in a larger can in the garage.  I did that one day and sometime later I happened to go into the garage and there was my SIL holding my little bathroom trash bag and pawing through it.  I was taken aback and said "what are you doing"?  He said he was looking through it for recyclables.  I hope he had fun handling all of that yukkie stuff.  I informed him that I didn't want him to bother with my trash.  That I was perfectly capable of taking care of any bathroom items that belonged in the recycle bin!  Who does that??

That is incredibly gross. And disturbing.

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Life in General / Re: A glitch in the Matrix or Mandela effect???
« on: March 25, 2024, 09:23:43 pm »
I had some incidents lately.
(1) I have been teaching some quilling classes lately. For my first class, I took some examples to show the wide variety of things you can do. But I could not find my box of flowers. Nowhere. I did have lots of examples so no big deal, but still, what did I do with them? I did take a chunk of styrofoam that my laptop was packed with to show that odd everyday objects can be great tools (I use it to pin my designs in place as I glue them). Now a month later, I cannot find the styrofoam even though I distinctly remember unpacking it at home after the class. And the box of flowers is right where it always has been. Grrr!

(2) On our knife block, the filet knife disappeared about a month ago. Then last week, the paring knife also disappeared. While looking for the paring knife, my sister pulled open the silverware drawer, and there was the filet knife. So, how did we not see the filet knife when it was just lying there as plain as day for a month? Still no paring knife, unfortunately.

Now, obviously, I was stressing about teaching these classes and I would bet that has probably led me to set things down in odd places and not see things I am looking directly at. But lordy, I wish I could find my things!

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Life in General / WHAT is that person doing?
« on: January 27, 2024, 10:30:49 am »
Last night, my sister and I went out for dinner at a local diner. At one point, a waitress went to a nearby table to clear dishes, offer dessert, ask if anyone needed to box up their food. One of the women picked up her empty plate and proceeded to lick it while telling the waitress (as she dragged her tongue across the plate) that she had enjoyed  the meal. I whispered to my sister, "Did you see that?" How could I miss, she replied, her eyes bulging from her head.

So have you ever witnessed some act that was so outrageously bad etiquette that you couldn't believe what you were seeing?

Years and years ago, my parents took me out to a casual restaurant. Suddenly, my mother's eyes went wide. The man behind my back had decided to thoroughly pick his teeth with a steak knife, very bad manners, but also more than a little dangerous (my mother said he was digging vigorously in his back molars while also talking).

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Life in General / Re: Another tipping question . . .
« on: January 20, 2024, 06:12:18 pm »
I once had an experience where the meal took an incredibly long time, but not for want of wait staff. We could see waitresses running around, getting salads out and making sure everyone had drinks and refills. But the food being placed on the pass (we could see it from our table) was intermittent, if even that. Finally, when our waitress came by to check our drinks and reassure us that our food should be out shortly, I asked if there was a problem in the kitchen. She paused and then said, "Only one cook showed up tonight." Fortunately, all salads were prepped and so the waitresses were able to handle that. But this was on a Friday night, and the restaurant had advertised an All You Can Eat Fish special.

Those poor waitresses! I left a huge tip because they were trying so hard to make it work. (We also witnessed two waitresses arguing in hissing tones over whose spaghetti dinner that was sitting on the pass, the one with the older order claimed it).

On the other hand, we have never gone back to that restaurant. They may still be open, at least there is still a sign on the building.

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Life in General / Re: Nesting Parties
« on: January 08, 2024, 10:42:14 am »
I have a few very close friends and 2 sisters. Maybe. Just maybe, I would help them. But don't insult me by pretending that it is some kind of party. I am doing you a favor by helping you because I love you and know that you would do the same for me. So, if people showed up to help me do whatever, I would definitely take them out to dinner afterwards and probably give them a little gift and a handwritten card.

But it's not a party.

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Life in General / Re: Is it just me?
« on: December 28, 2023, 06:01:44 pm »
I agree with you. I am not asking her to marry me. Just don't make me go to the trouble of going someplace (like a play), only to be turned away. 

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Life in General / Re: The etiquette of not giving out your phone number
« on: October 29, 2023, 11:38:07 am »
I also have a landline and a cell. On the cell, caller ID will only show up if I have that number in my directory. On the landline, caller ID shows up and that is why I am far more likely to give out the landline number to people that I want to screen the call.

Patti was out of line, but I wouldn't know how to address that. Now there is a very good chance that Tanya won't actually call, but quite frankly, I wouldn't count on it. Tanya is the relentless kind of talker who, if she is unable to connect with her regular calls, will start scrolling through her directory for someone, anyone, to call and talk to. Good luck.

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I like the idea of warning everyone that latecomers will not be able to participate and will not receive a refund. I do not like the idea about lying about the start time. Come on, you are all adults here. She needs to live with the consequences of her choices instead of making you contort yourself into tricking her.

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There is a friend I used to work with, and we meet one or two times a year. We live at least 25 miles apart, and after the first few times, we have settled on the PF Changs almost exactly equidistant from each of us. It works, and it's a no brainer.  I would pick a place that worked well before, and suggest it every time. If she doesn't want to do that one any more, I'm sorry, but the onus is on her.

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Thanks for all the lovely advice here!

I met his wife briefly once about 5 years ago, but I really didn't know her.

But I do have an update! He called me and came over Friday with his neighbor. His neighbor owns a landscaping business and his neighbor was nice enough to take care of Hiram's customers while Hiram is putting together the funeral arrangements. Hiram drove along because my house is a little tricky to find. While the neighbor quickly mowed my lawn, I spoke with Hiram.

I gave him a big hug, and mindful of the excellent advice here, said that I was so sorry and that I was keeping him in my thoughts. I also thanked him for taking care of my lawn even during his grief. And all of you are so right: I said I was sorry, but I didn't try to add anything. I am thinking of attending the viewing. Since Hiram is really the only one I know in the family, I am certain that a brief visit will be sufficient.

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Monday, I spoke on the phone with the man who mows my lawn. It was rainy, and we tentatively agreed on Tuesday, maybe Wednesday. Tuesday, he called in the morning, and I initially assumed he was calling to confirm he would be out. After a garbled greeting, he dropped a bombshell. His wife had laid down Monday evening to take a nap, and she died in her sleep. He was understandably a mess. I have spoken to him a few times, and he is distraught, sobbing at times, blaming himself for not checking on why she seemed to be taking such a long nap.

I don't want to be one of those thoughtless people that say such cruel things, even inadvertently. What I have said: I am so sorry. I know you loved her so much. I know you are the person who takes care of everyone else.

Although she had health issues, I have been careful not to say it was for the best.

What other minefields should I watch out for? (My sister and I also gave him a little money to help cover the cost of the funeral). Over the years, I have heard such horror stories of people who remember the horrible thing that was said years in the past, and I don't want to cause him any more pain.

Edit to add: Not that I am a thoughtless person, but this has been such a shock (I've known him for years) and my brain has shut down.

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The Work Day / Re: Frustrated; need help and advice
« on: June 20, 2023, 09:46:10 pm »
One way I learned to handle situations like this was to treat the interaction as if the person was being helpful.  "Oh, good to know. Thanks for the pointer!" said in a positive tone can work wonders. You can train people in how you react to them. If I make you feel that you are helpful and that I welcome your input, then your input will become positive and helpful. If I react with anger or hostility, then your input to me will become aggressive and negative.

I'm not saying that you become a force of toxic positivity, but reframing those interactions can help you a lot, not to mention, make you feel better in general.

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