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Pets / Re: Transporting kittens
« on: October 03, 2022, 01:23:03 pm »
This might sound nutty but I used to have a cat who was soothed by music. So when I had to drive him anywhere I'd play his playlist.

Also, we'd line his carrier with an old bath towel on top of a puppy pad, which made cleanup pretty easy in case of accidents.

He was also not a big fan of a larger carrier - he was happier in something small and cozy, where he was more comfortable napping. Also, I always attached his carrier to the back seat with the seat belt (it was a soft-sided carrier with a loop in the back that I'd run the belt through), so the carrier wasn't going to move much while driving.

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So, after the kids returned, the parents were debriefed. The chaperones attempted to talk to Suzy's mother to discuss her behavior but Suzy's mother was not interested in talking. She also did not participate in the debriefing.

Suzy's behavior was actually worse than what my daughter described to me. The chaperones were proud of how the girls handled Suzy - they said the other girls never lost their composure with her, and that when someone was feeling overwhelmed by Suzy another girl would step in and try to engage Suzy long enough to let the overwhelmed girl out of the conversation. I got the sense that by the end of the trip, the chaperones were keeping Suzy home partly as a consequence to her behavior and partly to give the rest of the girls a break.

I do feel for Suzy and I don't think she's being set up with the skills she'll need to function as an adult. But that's not my problem, and definitely not my daughter's problem, to fix.

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The girls are coming home today. My daughter says they had a great time despite Suzy.

Suzy's behavior got worse as the week went on, and the chaperones started setting consequences for her misbehavior. By the end of the week Suzy had to stay at the house a lot while the other girls were taking small side trips.

As for the troop, this trip was a bit of a farewell for them. The girls are aging out of their current troop. My daughter will be moving on to a Senior troop that doesn't accept all applicants - you need a recommendation to get in. I can't imagine that Suzy will get a recommendation, so we probably don't have to worry about her there.

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OP here. My daughter is one of the scouts, not a chaperone.

My suspicion is that, not only the girls, but also the adults knew that this girl had these kinds of behavior and social problems. Taking her on an out of state trip like this was a mistake. At least if the trip had been close to home, the parents could be told to come and get her. Everyone is probably going to have to accept the situation and do the best they can for the last few days.

Yes, the girls and chaperones knew about Suzy's behavior. The troop leader outlined behavior expectations with the girls for months before the trip, and asked parents not to send their children if they didn't believe that the child could behave appropriately for a week without parents present. All of the troop parents said they did not believe their child would be a problem.

I'm a retired elementary school teacher. I've had the occasional student who craves attention and will behave in an obnoxious manner to get it. It creates a vicious cycle where the more the other children reject her, the worse she acts.  There is help for a child like this. I had one particular student who was very similar. She worked with a school social worker who helped her develop better social skills. An adult working one on one with a child like this can convince her that her behavior is causing others to dislike her.

To be honest, I think Suzy's parents get in the way of her social development. Suzy's mom is very much opposed to any suggestion that Suzy might need help.  She told me that she doesn't understand why kids don't like Suzy and believes that if kids would just pay more attention to Suzy then she'd be nicer to them.

Also, part of the problem here is that the girls are a few years older. Middle school aged girls can become more open in their dislike.

Oh, yes. I know that the older my daughter gets, the harder it is for her to disguise her dislike.

If her behavior is as bad as described, she needs help, I hope she gets it.

Like I said, her mother is very opposed to suggestions that Suzy's behavior is anything other than normal. I can't imagine how she will function in adulthood.


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My daughter Ava's girl scout troop is taking a weeklong beach trip to a site that's a several-hour plane ride from home. The girls have been saving for this trip for years, and they rented a beach house big enough for six girls (13-14 y.o.) and two chaperones. They are visiting various sites and relaxing at the beach for a week.

Ava has been texting me frequently about one of the girls, Suzy, who is annoying everyone on the trip.  Suzy doesn't get along with other kids. She wants to be the center of attention 100% of the time and her favorite attention-seeking strategies are to pick fights with other kids or accuse them of hating her. She once admitted to Ava that she likes to make people angry at her because she's guaranteed to get their attention. She also complains that she feels like none of the scouts like her.

The chaperones are doing their best to help the girls develop strategies to deal with Suzy - generally, walking away from her - but that seems to enrage her and she will stand in the common area screaming about how the girls are "excluding her" by walking away. As the girls get better at not engaging the crazy, Suzy has been starting fights with the chaperones instead.

Ava doesn't like the tension - she wants a calm, relaxing week. But she's stuck in the house with this kid for a few more days. What can I tell my kid about how to enjoy the trip despite Suzy?

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Life in General / Re: The Etiquette of Fireworks
« on: July 07, 2020, 10:13:23 am »
We've had fireworks in our neighborhood every night since just before Memorial Day.

Most nights it's just a couple minutes, but it doesn't start until 9 or 10. And the last week before the 4th of July it would go until 1 or 2 in the morning.

Fireworks are illegal in my city, but there are just so many that the police aren't even bothering to respond. The night of the 4th the fireworks in our neighborhood went until past 3 am. And we've still had nightly fireworks since then.

I am so tired.

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Life in General / Re: "It's your fault..."
« on: February 24, 2020, 12:43:05 pm »
That's ridiculous.

Years ago I was on Jeopardy! In the week after my appearance, I was inundated with messages from total strangers on Facebook. I ended up having to block several of them because no, an appearance on a TV show does not mean I want to see you, Mr. Total Stranger, in various states of undress. I guarantee you that I was not dressed provocatively when I was on the show. Some people are just creeps.

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Family and Children / Children and rude comments from peers
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:57:45 am »
My 11-year-old daughter Ava was at a Girl Scout event this weekend. During some downtime, the girls were gathered in the lodge. A girl she didn't know (not from her troop) was off in the corner, dancing to the music in her head. Ava told me the girl was "a little weird, but in a good way" and that she thought she was cool for doing her own thing.

Sara, a girl from Ava's troop, noticed Ava watching the girl and said, "That girl is so special ed! Someone should tell her that dance is not her thing." Ava looked at Sara and told her that was a mean thing to say and that she had been enjoying watching her dance. Sara walked away.

Ava wasn't sure if she should have said something to the dancing girl to try to be supportive after Sara's comment. She wasn't sure if the girl hadn't heard what Sara had said, or if she was just ignoring the comment. And she didn't want to ask the girl if she'd heard anything, because if she hadn't then Ava didn't want to open that can of worms. In the end, Ava felt a little bad - she was worried that she had not done enough in support of the dancer.

What would you have done?

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Life in General / Re: Cropped out of photo
« on: January 15, 2020, 04:58:59 pm »
I'm kind of torn here.

  It's not that she rejects us, or doesn't like us, but she doesn't see us as related in the same way her children and grandchildren are. So if at a wedding, she requests a "family picture," my brother-in-law's wife and I hold jackets and drinks while my sister-in-law's husband takes the picture. Our feelings aren't hurt because we don't take it personally. Yes, there are pictures of the extended family that includes in-laws, but the "family" shots are just the blood relatives.

That is fine for her - as long as it is fine for you to leave her out of the pictures at your house.

I think anyone can display whatever photos they want in their own homes!!!!

Absolutely. And while etiquette can dictate that married couples are social units, no one can force my mother in law to change her definition of family. She's never questioned the idea that my husband and I are a social unit. She just doesn't see me as part of her family, and that has nothing to do with her feelings for me as a person.

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Life in General / Re: Cropped out of photo
« on: January 15, 2020, 12:11:49 pm »
I'm kind of torn here.

I understand that the OP feels that her partner is her family and wants to be included as such. But at the same time, the family has a definition that's incompatible with that.

My husband's family (we've been married 15 years) has always been kind and generous towards me, but they don't think of me as family. To them, "family" means family related by blood. So to my mother-in-law, her family is her, her late husband, her children and her grandchildren. The sons-in-law and daughters-in-law are her children's family, not hers.  It's not that she rejects us, or doesn't like us, but she doesn't see us as related in the same way her children and grandchildren are. So if at a wedding, she requests a "family picture," my brother-in-law's wife and I hold jackets and drinks while my sister-in-law's husband takes the picture. Our feelings aren't hurt because we don't take it personally. Yes, there are pictures of the extended family that includes in-laws, but the "family" shots are just the blood relatives.

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Life in General / Re: The Morning Honk
« on: November 13, 2019, 02:43:10 pm »
And also HOWEVER, I have had cars that will set off the car alarm if you try to open them with the key, having not "beeped" the car to turn off the car alarm.

My car is that way. If I tried to unlock it with the key, the whole thing starts screaming at me. The beep is a lot more tolerable.

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Pets / Re: Dear Cat . . .
« on: October 24, 2019, 03:37:51 pm »
Dear Princess,

I'm sorry. I know you don't like it when I have to clean your butt, but I have to keep you clean.

Punishing me by meowing loudly in my face in the middle of the night is annoying, but it will not deter me.

Also, I don't feel that sorry that your feline brother responded to your middle-of-the-night yelling by pouncing on you. I think you kind of deserved that.

Love,

Mom

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First question is what is a Punchbowl?

Punchbowl is a site that does online invitations - it's a competitor of Evite.

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The Work Day / Re: Company give-aways
« on: June 20, 2019, 06:56:59 pm »
My ten-year-old daughter has asked for a stainless steel straw in a case for her birthday, so she would think this is the most amazing swag ever.  :)

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Super frustrating update  >:(

I found out (from listening to Tina's mom complain) that Tina has ADHD and that anger management issues are common in kids with ADHD.

But it turns out that Tina's mom is a bit delusional as well. She thinks that because anger management issues often come with ADHD, Tina should not be disciplined for angry outbursts. She doesn't think she needs to do anything about them, either, because they're "normal."

Tina is close to being expelled from the afterschool activity she and Ava participate in because of her anger. She's been pushing and hitting other kids, throwing things, and yelling at kids and adults. Many of the kids are scared of her and the adults who run the activity are tired of being told that Tina's behavior doesn't need to change but the adults and kids need to adjust their expectations when it comes to Tina. Apparently if they don't like being hit or yelled at, everyone should just go along with whatever Tina wants.

I feel for the kid. I can't imagine it's fun to be so angry all the time and it seems to me that learning some coping strategies would make her life so much easier.

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