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The Work Day / Re: Frustrated; need help and advice
« on: June 20, 2023, 10:02:38 am »

Then why did the department manager not tell me that this is how the company culture is?

Why could she have not just used her words and tell me that?

I am not a mind reader.

She did tell you that's how the company culture is when she used her words to tell you:

"We do no do that here. We generally do not respond to those types of e-mails. We keep everything in house. Senior Management sends those e-mails, and they do not want to see those types of responses. Senior Management does not care to see those types of responses."

But she could have told me our company culture is the following.... instead of having me guess what she means. Just tell me our company culture is this.

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The Work Day / Re: Frustrated; need help and advice
« on: June 19, 2023, 04:50:32 pm »
Question 2: Your Department Manager is passing on company culture to you. I don't think I'd call it unprofessional, but if the culture is those types of administrative questions are handled within the confines of the store then that is the culture you should adopt. If the email came from say a regional manager, then I agree with your department manager that asking someone at that level of clarity was not the most appropriate way to handle it. If you don't know where to look up store numbers, that is a good opportunity for you to contact your department manager and say "Hi, I received this email but realized I do not know where to look up store numbers. Can you tell me how to find that out?" For me, a good rule of thumb is who is the person closest to me in rank that can answer my question.

Then why did the department manager not tell me that this is how the company culture is?

Why could she have not just used her words and tell me that?

I am not a mind reader.

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The Work Day / Frustrated; need help and advice
« on: June 19, 2023, 11:14:58 am »
I have been working as a fuel center clerk for a *major grocery store chain* since 2020.
The *major grocery store chain* has their fuel centers located in the same area where their grocery stores are located.

I was asked by the fuel center lead earlier this year if I would be interested in becoming the lead.
She told me that she was moving up within our employer.
Roughly a month later the store manager asked me if I would like to become the fuel center lead.
I was honored that he thought of me as a lead, and so I said yes.

A department manager who works at the grocery store is also over the fuel center.
She has been over the fuel center for several years.
I was told by the fuel center employee who trained me in 2020 that this particular department manager was over the fuel center when he started working there in 2014.
She makes the fuel center work schedule, staffs the fuel center, is supposed to order merchandise for the fuel center, and so on

I was in training to become the fuel center lead starting in Februarly of this year
2 weeks ago I was certified as fuel center lead by the District Manager over the *major grocery store chain* fuel centers in the city where I live.

The day after I was certifed was one of my off days, and so my husband, I and a friend of his went out to dinner to celebrate.
I left my iphone at home since I was off that day.
When I go home there was a voicemail message from the department manager asking me what do we do when the fuel pumps shut down.
Apparently there was a storm in the area where the fuel center is located that knocked out the power to the fuel pumps.
2 employees were working there at that time, and both of them have been working for the *major grocery store chain* for a while.
There was a fuel center clerk and a store employee working at the fuel center at that time, and the fuel center clerk was training the store employee as back up fuel center staff.
The phone number for the help desk is located inside the fuel center kiosk.
The department manager over the fuel center referred me to the help desk number while I was training as a fuel center clerk back in 2020 regarding any issues with the fuel pumps.
So, I did not understand why she left me that voicemail.

A week after that incident happend, I received an e-mail at my work address regarding a meeting that is being held for the fuel center leads at the end of this month.
The body of the e-mail stated the following...

Fuel center lead meeting at location 913

I replied to the e-mail asking "What is the address for location 913?" and carbon copied my resposne to the department manager over the fuel center.

Several days later the department manager told me in person the that what I did was unprofessional.

When I asked her why was it unprofessional, her response was "We do no do that here. We generally do not respond to those types of e-mails. We keep everything in house. Senior Management sends those e-mails, and they do not want to see those types of responses. Senior Management does not care to see those types of responses."

I am frustrated because the department manager really did not answer my question as to why my response was unprofessional.
Plus I am frustrated that she called me on my off day to ask what do the fuel center clerks do when the fuel pumps shut down when the number for the help desk is located inside the fuel center kiosk, which she knows.

What is the best way to deal with her now that I report to her?

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I found out from 1) a couple of my co-workers, 2) the fuel center lead, and 3) a department lead who works in a different department at the location it is against company policy to schedule any employee a 3 hour shift.

The fuel center lead 1) makes the work schedule every week, 2) send it to the Customer Service Manager at the front end who enters it into the system, and 3) the HR Assistant Manager who works at the location all of us work at reviews the work schedule and makes any changes.

So, the HR Assistant Manager changed my Monday shift to 3 hours, which is against company policy.

I was told by the fuel center lead and the other department lead to work my 8 hour shift on Monday, which I did

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Starting next week the hours at the fuel center are being cut

There are 4 fuel center employees

One fulltime fuel center lead who is classified as fulltime
A part-time fuel center assistant lead who is classified as part-time
Me
and a fuel center employee who only works 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. during the week and 4 to 6 hours on the weekend

I am also scheduled to work a 3 hour shift on Monday

But only my hours and the employee who only works 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. during the week and 4 to 6 hours on the weekend hours are being cut

The assistant fuel center lead is still getting 40 hours even though he is classified as part-time

Is it really work working a 3 hour shift?

My feeling is that for the 3 employees who are classified as part-time is that all of us should be getting reduces hours

Is it really worth it saying something to store management about that?

Or should I just start looking for a better job situation?


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And I'd tell the assistant fuel center lead "Sorry, I don't speak Spanish. I'll ask customers if they speak any English, but if they can't explain their issue in English then I will simply have to call on you'.  I get that this person doesn't want to spend half their working day being called away from their own tasks to translate, but it's utterly unreasonable to tell you to 'resolve the customer's issue' if you have no language at all in common with them.

I understand that part of the assistant fuel center leads job is to coach employees on how to solve issues, but the solutions need to be practical and reasonable.

Expecting the employee to 'resolve the customer's issue' when there is a language barrier is not practical nor reasonable.

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The Work Day / Need work advice regarding customers who only speak Spanish
« on: September 04, 2022, 11:17:04 am »
I work as a fuel center clerk for a *major grocery store chain*, and there are times when the fuel center clerks need to solve customer issues regarding the fuel pumps.  This *major grocery store chain* has a program where you earn fuel points when you grocery shop. You use your fuel points when paying at the pump so you gas is cheaper. You use your rewards card to do that. The cashier scans your rewards card before you pay for groceries, and the fuel points are added to your rewards card.

The customer pays at the fuel pump and then has one of the following issues

The fuel pump stopped pumping gas for some reason. What the exact reason is we do not know since the fuel center clerk was not at the fuel pump when that happened.

The customer did not know how to use the fuel points, and just paid for the gas without using the fuel points

The customer used some of their fuel points, but they really wanted to use more of their fuel points

The problem is this...

Once you pay for gas, and pump the gas, there is not anything we can do to solve this issue.

The register and the computer inside the kiosk are not programmed/designed to 1) add lost fuel points back to your rewards card or 2) put lost fuel points back on your rewards card

There is a full-time fuel center lead and a full-time assistant fuel center lead.

The assistant fuel center lead is bilingual.

Whenever there is an issue at the pump, and the customer 1) comes to the fuel center kiosk window to let us know what the issue is and 2) only speaks Spanish, he wants us to ask the customer what the issue is and what the customer wants done.  He wants us to solve the issue or to attempt to solve the issue. The problem is that I am not bilingual.

What is the best way to get across to him that I do not speak their language and so it is difficult for me to do that?

What should I tell the customer when there is a language barrier?

What should I tell him regarding the language barrier?

The best thing I can think of is to call the main store to see if there is anyone to translate.




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The Work Day / Re: Need work advice
« on: December 12, 2021, 03:12:08 pm »
Can you put an estimated time of return on the pumps?  So if the collection process normally takes an hour, put an estimated time of return 1.5 hours later.  The first time the manager pages, let them know your ETA and hope that they get them message and don't bother you again.

Alternatively, with a united front with the other attendants, suggest to management that perhaps you could compile a list of what is needed, email it to them first thing in the shift and have them collect it and deliver it.  Or email at the end of the previous shift to have it collected, scanned and verified so at the beginning of your shift, you pick up the stuff needed and then start your shift at the pump shack a few minutes late.

In my mind, it is more important to have an attendant at the gas bar all the time than it is to ensure all the snacks are topped up.  If a customer desperately wants a snack, they'll either choose something else that is in stock or you can send them over to the grocery store.

Are the gas station hours the same as the grocery store?  Shorter or longer?  Does one person handle the entire day?  If there are two attendants, perhaps you could ask for a 1 hour overlap.  The previous attendant makes the list, the new attendant grabs it and does the run then the first attendant goes home.

I do put an estimated time on the sign every time I am away from the fuel center, but I still got paged over and over

In the beginning when there was overlap between the morning shift and the mid shift, either the morning shift clerk or the mid shift clerk would go inside the store and get the product

Then several months later it changed to the morning shift clerk has to get the product even when there is an overlapping mid shift clerk.

One reason why it changed is because the mid shift clerk would give the morning shift clerk their 30 minute break as well as complete other duties

There are times when there is only an opener and a closer

There is some overlap, but it is not consistent

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The Work Day / Re: Need work advice
« on: December 12, 2021, 10:11:23 am »
1).  Tell management you do not have an exact time, but it gets longer every time you have to answer a page.

2). Tell coworker to take the complaints to management as there is nothing you can do to change or address the situation.

3).  I think the current wording is fine.  Perhaps it is too explanatory, since they don't really need to know what you are doing, just that you are away.

1) All of you having this problem should talk to the manager together. Of course, you guys should stay as positive as possible, maybe stressing how much you are concerned about the customers dealing with the situation.  Maybe the Manager should do some of the product collections?
2) Was the coworker trying to boss you, give you grief? Or was it an butt backward way of trying to warn you or voice solidarity?
3) Good point! But, these customers should have the info. about what to do if there is a problem while you are not there, probably talk to the manager.

This is the perfect time for you and your coworkers to urge the manager to find a fair resolution, especially with a shortage of employees you HAVE to be more valuable to them.

The co-worker has a habit of trying to be boss when all he is is a custodian. He does this to other employees too. He told me, in front of the assistant store manager who told me earlier this year that is particular job responsibility must be done 7 days a week no matter what, that several customers were complaining because they could not pay with cash. It may have been a butt backward way of trying to warn you or voice solidarity, but with his trying to be boss, you never know.

The store manager also asked me how long it will take me to finish that job several months ago when a customer called to store because they wanted to pay at the window.

So, both managers have told me that same thing, that customers are at the window wanting to pay for gas and want to know either when will I return to the fuel center or how long will it take for me to return to the fuel center. I am wondering if it is their way of attempting to appease the customer.

But both managers know that this particular job responsibility must be done 7 days a week.

My answering repeated pages by the assistant manager, who told me that this particular job responsibility must be done 7 days a week no matter what, prolongs the process.

What should I tell store management when I get paged by them regarding that?

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The Work Day / Re: Need work advice
« on: December 10, 2021, 02:44:13 pm »
According to my co-workers, who also have to do this, it does take that to complete the entire process. That does include the assistant lead. Everyone working at the fuel center has to do this.

My co-workers have also told me that they have waited 30 minutes or longer for a store manager to arrive to verify the product collected after paging a store manager.

So how are your coworkers handling this then? Why not have a united front to address this global issue? Or are you the only one who is being targeted? If yes, I would ask specifically how you are not meeting expectations and confirm that you are doing what all of your coworkers are also doing.

According to my co-workers, they are having the same issue or similar issues.

Similar issues being either followed into the store by a customer asking them how long they will be away from the fuel center or a customer calling self checkout asking them when will the fuel center clerk return. The self checkout clerk will page my co-worker to come to self checkout, hand them the phone, and my co-workers will have to give the customer who called an answer.

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The Work Day / Re: Need work advice
« on: December 10, 2021, 01:26:37 pm »
According to my co-workers, who also have to do this, it does take that to complete the entire process. That does include the assistant lead. Everyone working at the fuel center has to do this.

My co-workers have also told me that they have waited 30 minutes or longer for a store manager to arrive to verify the product collected after paging a store manager.

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The Work Day / Need work advice
« on: December 10, 2021, 12:52:21 pm »
I have a work situation I need help with.

I previously posted about this situation to get advice, but I need more advice because other problems have come up regarding the issue.

The issue is this…

I currently work in the fuel center that is managed by a *major grocery store chain*.

One of my duties is collecting product inside the store that is sold at the fuel center. The entire process includes 1) collecting the product, 2) scanning the product, and 3) having a member of store management verify the collected product.

How long that takes depends on how many products need to be collected and scanned as well as how long it takes for a member of store management to come to the front of the store to verify the collected product. I must page a store manager when I am done collecting and scanning the products.

Usually there is only one fuel center employee on staff for each shift.

I have been told by the fuel center lead as well as by the manager over the fuel center that this is one of our job responsibilities that must be done 7 days a week.

The grocery store is short-staffed, and so there is not another employee who can do this.

When I am inside the store collecting product, the fuel center window is temporarily closed because there is no-one to relieve me or the other fuel center employees. So that means customers cannot pay cash at the window for fuel.

The fuel pumps are available for self-serve only.

Lately when I am inside the store collecting product, a member of store management pages me several times asking me how long it will take for me to finish or what time will I return to the fuel center. Yesterday I received many pages from the same assistant manager regarding this.

Then a store employee told me that customers were complaining about the fact that there was no-one at the fuel center.

A sign was posted at the fuel center stating that the fuel center clerk is collecting product inside the store, that the fuel center employee will be away for approximately an hour to two hours and to pay at the pump.

I need advice regarding 1) what to tell store management when I am continuously paged by them, 2) what to tell the store employee who told me that customers are complaining regarding no-one being at the fuel center, and 3) specifically what should the sign include.

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There is no one to receive the fuel center clerks for break when there is only an opener and a closer

There is not a store employee who can get change for us

As for the restocking…

The fuel center opener is expected to do the 7 days a week no matter what according to one of the Assistant store managers

The department head will not do that unless absolutely necessary as deemed by the store manager or by his manager

2 of her other employees used to do the restocking, but moved one to the overnight shift and the other one was promoted to assistant lead and has more duties to do

So that means the fuel center clerks are stuck doing the restocking

How do you deal with an untenable situation at work?

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The Work Day / I need advice on how to handle situations where I work at
« on: August 18, 2021, 04:32:13 pm »
I need advice on how to handle situations where I work at.

I currently work at a fuel center that is managed by a *grocery store chain*.

I work at a location that has a fuel center and a grocery store.

The fuel center is not located near the grocery store.

I do not have a car, and so I take public transportation, or I get a ride to work or a ride home from work.

I do not go directly to the fuel center when I arrive because I clock in inside the main grocery store.

Since I have open availability, my work schedule varies. I work the opening shift, mid shift, and closing shift.

It takes several minutes to and from the fuel center and the grocery store if you must go to the bathroom, get change for the register, heat up your lunch since there is not room at the fuel center for a microwave and so on.

There are several job responsibilities for the fuel center clerks

For example
 
•   Replenishing/restocking/refilling the items that are sold at the fuel center. This job responsibility takes you away from the fuel center for an hour or more, and this must be done 7 days a week because the District office gets a report every time this is done, and this office wants the report done 7 days a week. You use a handheld scanner to scan the items, and when you press finish collecting, a report is sent to that office
•   When you are done restocking the items, you must return the dolly or cart that was used as well as the totes that were used to collect the items and the handheld to the grocery store
•   A list of cleaning duties done daily, and each shift has certain duties to complete
•   Completing paperwork every morning
•   Putting price tags on the shelves when the prices of the products change

Regarding replenishing/restocking/refilling the items that are sold at the fuel center…

The department head and the fuel center lead both want the opener to do that even when there are overlapping opening and mid shifts on the fuel center schedule.

The department head over the fuel center as well as 2 other departments does not want the fuel center clerks leaving the fuel center unattended, and if she sees me inside the store, the first thing she says is “who is at the fuel center?”

The are five fuel center clerks, but only 3 of us, including me, have open availability. The other 2 clerks have limited availability.

The department head makes the weekly schedule, and there are several days in a week when there is either only an opener and a closer or three shifts back-to-back, but no overlap between the opening shift and the mid shift.  There is some overlap, but it is not consistent. This is the same for every week and month. This has been going on since I started working there last year.

As of this month, one of the Assistant store Managers does not want any personal items inside the fuel center.  The fuel center lead does not want that as well because that information is indicated on some paperwork the opener completes every morning. Her solution to this problem is to put your personal items inside a locker, but the lockers are located inside the grocery store on the second floor. I do have a personal locker on the second floor. So, that would mean you bring what you need to the fuel center, such as your breakfast if you work 6 a.m. to 2 p.m., which I do at times, as well as your lunch and other items. Then when you are done with your breakfast, you go back to the store and put your personal belongings, such as the thermos I use for my coffee and the thermos I use for my hot decaf green tea, inside your locker.  The same for your lunch. And so on.

What is the best way for me to approach, address and handle these situations?

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Life in General / Re: Okay Karen
« on: February 12, 2021, 04:35:42 pm »
Jem, this is the second time you have posted on this thread saying you and your friends use it in a "lighthearted way". You have never seen the many, many headlines about all the rascist Karens"! There is nothing I can say to make you realize how it makes a lot of us feel, but that's okay, because you don't mean it as a slur, you're just being lighthearted. So it's all okay.

This is not a term my friends or I personally use frequently. My point was this: "...it is describing an over-the-top reaction as opposed to labeling a person as being 100% over-the-top all the time."

I am not saying no one should be offended. Different people will react differently. My point was only that not all people view the term and its use the same way.
So, how would you describe this behavior if you saw someone of either gender acting like this?

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