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Rose Red

Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2020, 12:14:28 pm »
It wouldn't bother me. There are many scammers out there. Look how many stories there are of family borrowing handicap tags. If the only thing they want is a second ID, it's easy enough for me to do.  Also, you're assuming they are singling out women. We don't know if they'll do the same thing to a husband whose wife is in the military and have a different last name than her.

If it bugs you, it bugs you and you can call corporate. But this wouldn't be my hill to die on.

Edited to say I don't know anything about military or dependent ID's.
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2020, 12:26:23 pm »
If the policy is that military and their spouses and dependants can get a discount but that those spouses and dependants must have the same last name, then it is a stupid policy.  There are so many blended families where the dependants may not have the same last name, let alone the spouse, as the military member.

I do think you should contact corporate, not to complain about the manager or cashier because they were just following the policy as written, but to point out to them that their policy is discriminatory against military families that are not 'traditional'.

Though I do agree that the manager should have used his discretion and granted the discount.
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2020, 12:47:44 pm »
I personally wouldn’t complain about this. It seems like it would be easier for them to stop extending the discount to spouses.
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2020, 12:51:23 pm »
In my opinion, this is a molehill looking for a mountain.

I agree with you about the different last names but it is a corporate policy. Sure, the manager probably has the discretion to bend it but what I think you did was to go way overboard about protesting it--to someone who doesn't have the ability to change the procedure. Instead, you took your feelings out on him and, from what I gather from your post, on some unknown staff member who had to put your stuff away when you apparently walked out without it.

We are all feeling a bit on edge and tense these days--and it is more than possible, in my opinion, the virus is going to go on for a long, long time. So while you may have been in the right in some sense, I think your making this a kind of hill to die on is just over the top. And unnecessary. For what? When you left did you leave behind a smile, some good will, and some kindness. Methinks not.
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Hanna

Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2020, 01:00:44 pm »
The only other thing I'd ask is this:
Does your military ID identify YOU, personally, specifically? In other words, does it have a photo on it?
   If it's an ID that you could hand to someone else and they could successfully pretend to be you, then I absolutely think it's OK to ask for proof of identity AND proof of military status.
   But they'd be stupid not to do it for the military member as well. The phone number should just be a way to pull up the records fast, not a validation of status.

Hi Toots, yes, it has my name, picture, spouses name and more.  It's accepted in airports by TSA for domestic travel.


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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2020, 01:35:46 pm »
Then yes, I would be annoyed.
ESPECIALLY because it has your spouse's name, so it's clear which service member you go with.

It also establishes clearly that you have a different name. I don't understand what a driver's license would tell them. Local address, maybe? How is that germane?

I would indeed write to the corporate office.

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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2020, 02:10:49 pm »
DH's retired military status is directly connected to our "My Lowes" reward card.  It's my understanding the many are.  Until just recently, I was able to get the discount simply by using the reward card.  Now, I also have to show my "dependent's ID" card as well.  The reason being is that too many people are using eligible reward cards or phone numbers to get the discount without being eligible themselves. 

That's really not a problem for us since he retired, he maintains a (retired) military ID card and that qualifies me to have my "dependent's ID" card. 

The problem arises because many veterans do not have an ID card that identifies them as such.  They use their discharge papers to sign up for benefits when they originally apply (there is a more centralized data base now).  The reason last name's have to match is because the spouse of a veteran would have no other way to claim the discount. 

Since you DO have a dependent's ID card, though, I think they were mistaken to not accept that as proof enough.  Historically (before we had the rewards card), it's always been enough when I've used it whereas I have had problems with Home Depot in that regard.  I'm sure it varies by location. 
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2020, 02:51:15 pm »

The problem arises because many veterans do not have an ID card that identifies them as such.  They use their discharge papers to sign up for benefits when they originally apply (there is a more centralized data base now).  The reason last name's have to match is because the spouse of a veteran would have no other way to claim the discount. 


This still doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it the marriage license that would convey the "dependent" status and not the last name? I mean, let's say John Marshall has a sister Sally Marshall but his wife kept her maiden name of Becky Smith. Becky Smith would be the dependent and not Sally Marshall, but under this policy Sally (or anyone else with the last name Marshall) would easily get benefits and Becky would have zero recourse? Why would a name have more "power" than an actual legal document? And why would a telephone number have any importance at all?

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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2020, 04:31:01 pm »
I think that this is one of those things that you get to decide how important it is to you. I think that it would be fine to say, "Pooey on them! Their policy is flawed, so I will just get my discount at Home Depot!" But I think it would be equally fine to decide that you wanted to make some change and see if you can get someone to adjust the policy. I think etiquette wise, they get to make the policy whatever they want. If they want to offer their military discount to no one, that is their choice. However, you, as a customer, get to select where you make your purchases. If the lack of discount means that you shop somewhere else, that is perfectly fine, too!
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2020, 05:28:18 pm »
It wouldn't bother me. There are many scammers out there. Look how many stories there are of family borrowing handicap tags. If the only thing they want is a second ID, it's easy enough for me to do.  Also, you're assuming they are singling out women. We don't know if they'll do the same thing to a husband whose wife is in the military and have a different last name than her.

If it bugs you, it bugs you and you can call corporate. But this wouldn't be my hill to die on.

Edited to say I don't know anything about military or dependent ID's.
I was thinking about this - even if the spouse is a husband, there is still a woman keeping her own name involved.  And they could also be discriminating against same sex couples who maintain their names instead of changing them.

Oddly enough, they are advertising on twitter how awesome they are for helping couples getting married.

Hanna

Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2020, 05:33:10 pm »
DH's retired military status is directly connected to our "My Lowes" reward card.  It's my understanding the many are.  Until just recently, I was able to get the discount simply by using the reward card.  Now, I also have to show my "dependent's ID" card as well.  The reason being is that too many people are using eligible reward cards or phone numbers to get the discount without being eligible themselves. 

That's really not a problem for us since he retired, he maintains a (retired) military ID card and that qualifies me to have my "dependent's ID" card. 

The problem arises because many veterans do not have an ID card that identifies them as such.  They use their discharge papers to sign up for benefits when they originally apply (there is a more centralized data base now). The reason last name's have to match is because the spouse of a veteran would have no other way to claim the discount. 


Since you DO have a dependent's ID card, though, I think they were mistaken to not accept that as proof enough.  Historically (before we had the rewards card), it's always been enough when I've used it whereas I have had problems with Home Depot in that regard.  I'm sure it varies by location.

I didn't realize it's unusual for spouses of veterans to have an ID card.  For some reason I just assumed everyone would go get one.  But I am sure it depends on status and benefits available.  I have the luxury of having a commissary very close so wanted it for that.

This is also one of the reasons I should consider if I do write them.
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2020, 05:45:17 pm »
I asked my husband about your situation OP. He says there's an easy work around. Next time your husband goes in Lowe's, he needs to tell them to add you to the account with your last name. It won't matter then that your last names don't match.
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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2020, 08:28:03 pm »
DH's retired military status is directly connected to our "My Lowes" reward card.  It's my understanding the many are.  Until just recently, I was able to get the discount simply by using the reward card.  Now, I also have to show my "dependent's ID" card as well.  The reason being is that too many people are using eligible reward cards or phone numbers to get the discount without being eligible themselves. 

That's really not a problem for us since he retired, he maintains a (retired) military ID card and that qualifies me to have my "dependent's ID" card. 

The problem arises because many veterans do not have an ID card that identifies them as such.  They use their discharge papers to sign up for benefits when they originally apply (there is a more centralized data base now). The reason last name's have to match is because the spouse of a veteran would have no other way to claim the discount. 


Since you DO have a dependent's ID card, though, I think they were mistaken to not accept that as proof enough.  Historically (before we had the rewards card), it's always been enough when I've used it whereas I have had problems with Home Depot in that regard.  I'm sure it varies by location.

I didn't realize it's unusual for spouses of veterans to have an ID card.  For some reason I just assumed everyone would go get one.  But I am sure it depends on status and benefits available.  I have the luxury of having a commissary very close so wanted it for that.

This is also one of the reasons I should consider if I do write them.

I don't have one, as the spouse of a veteran.  My husband just went through an ordeal to get a new card -- you're supposed to call and make an appointment, but they don't answer the phones.   When they finally do answer the phone, the appointments were always "full".  He finally had to just show up, even though you're not supposed to. 

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Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2020, 09:45:28 pm »
The card does indeed have a photo that is as clear as state issued drivers licenses.
I have one of my own 8~)
A pet peeve of mine is when cashiers ask for 'identification' instead of  'drivers license'.  I hand them the military ID and usually they freak out.
But it's never been denied or required yet another form of ID.
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oogyda

Re: Military Discount and Different last name
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2020, 06:20:28 am »
DH's retired military status is directly connected to our "My Lowes" reward card.  It's my understanding the many are.  Until just recently, I was able to get the discount simply by using the reward card.  Now, I also have to show my "dependent's ID" card as well.  The reason being is that too many people are using eligible reward cards or phone numbers to get the discount without being eligible themselves. 

That's really not a problem for us since he retired, he maintains a (retired) military ID card and that qualifies me to have my "dependent's ID" card. 

The problem arises because many veterans do not have an ID card that identifies them as such.  They use their discharge papers to sign up for benefits when they originally apply (there is a more centralized data base now). The reason last name's have to match is because the spouse of a veteran would have no other way to claim the discount. 


Since you DO have a dependent's ID card, though, I think they were mistaken to not accept that as proof enough.  Historically (before we had the rewards card), it's always been enough when I've used it whereas I have had problems with Home Depot in that regard.  I'm sure it varies by location.

I didn't realize it's unusual for spouses of veterans to have an ID card.  For some reason I just assumed everyone would go get one.  But I am sure it depends on status and benefits available.  I have the luxury of having a commissary very close so wanted it for that.

This is also one of the reasons I should consider if I do write them.

In the US, a veteran is somebody who served in the military.  It could be for 4 years or 30 years.  In most circumstances, a person must have served at least 20 years to be considered *retired* and eligible for continued privileges such as commissary and medical (and to carry the ID to prove it).

A person who served less time will not have an ID card that says they've served in the military.  They prove that by providing a copy of their discharge papers. 

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