Bad Manners and Brimstone

Quote from: chigger on September 25, 2020, 02:31:05 pm

Quote from: holly firestorm on September 25, 2020, 01:02:51 pm

I posted this on my Facebook page in June: When I was young there used to be this t-shirt, "B**ch: a kind, gentle-hearted woman who's been bullied, picked on, abused and dismissed once too often." It came about because of all the misogynists who called women "b**ches" any time they 'stepped out of line' or didn't know their place. Now there's a new slang word "Karen" which is SUPPOSED to refer to anyone who thinks they're so special they matter and no one else does.  But, since I first saw it being used, I've NEVER seen if refer to a male*, anyone who isn't white, in fact, not even someone who's young.   If a male acts like a racist, he's just called a racist.  If a woman acts like a racist, she's a "racist Karen." It seems to me what that insult really means is "middle aged or older white WOMAN who doesn't know her place." Especially for all those who hate being called "snowflake" or "libertard." but call any woman you don't want to screw and who disagrees with you a "Karen," Congratulations, you've shown there's no difference between you and the racists you've been raging about after all.

* Since then I have seen one or two memes about "Kens" or "Kevins" but nowhere near the hundreds of "Karen" memes.

Additionally, Some men will gaslight, bully, dismiss a woman for speaking up, even now. This "Karen" crap is just another way to put a woman you don't want to play scrabble with in her place.

If a man refuses to wear a mask in a public area he's just called an ***hole, but, a woman is called a Karen.  But, at the archery range where I shoot we are required by the Park Department to wear masks when not shooting. They will close us down if we do not comply with COVID restrictions, including this. As a Range volunteer I'm supposed to at least ask people if they have a mask with them. One jerk got nasty about it and tried to bully me into not saying anything. He's at least 30 years younger than me and had the gall to order me, "I told you not to talk to me." I 'reported' him to the Archery Facebook Group (not even the Park Dept.) About 20 people supported me including 3 instructors, 2 of whom are Club Board members. But, two "trolls" started in with the insults and veiled threats, even after the Head Instructor backed me and told them to behave. Among their insults was calling me a "Karen." Now, previously one of our male members (B) complained about someone else who didn't want to wear a mask.  These 'trolls' didn't have a word to say about that.  (PS: The trolls were kicked out of the group and the "I told you not to talk to me," boy was personally told by the head instructor that I was right and he was supposed to wear that mask when not shooting.

So, another confirmation that this "Karen" crap has lost its original meaning and is already being used by "the other side" to put a woman, especially an older white woman, in her place no matter what its original meaning was supposed to be.

Yes! The term "A Karen" is sexist, ageist, and truth be told, racist also! To be a Karen, you have to be female, middle aged, and white. So tell me that's not a slur! Those of us that carry that name are starting to find it exhausting, since mainstream media has picked it up as their new catchphrase.

To the bolded: no, it is not racist. Racism denotes power. You cannot be racist towards whites as the power structure is build entirely in their favor. You can prejudiced against them, but not racist.

(When Karens were just starting to be thing, I was considering cutting my hair and talking to the stylist about it. (She'd finished my cut and was spraying product, pulling a couple little pieces around my face.) She said, "We could do an inverted bob." I said, "If we do, I'm definitely going to need to talk to your manager." Good thing I crack myself up because she didn't get it, I tried to explain it, kept laughing at myself, and it fell flat.)

It's not as bad, but I also feel sorry for the guys named Sheldon.

I mentioned up thread I have a sister named Karen. She and I were on a short trip with a third sister who requires a wheelchair. Travel can sometimes be a challenge and after a full day of driving and visiting a few relatives, we were all getting a bit short on patience and were hungry. As we were about to check in to the hotel, Karen started asking/complaining about something as I'm trying to hunt for a credit card and sister in wheelchair asking the desk clerk about the room and we both stopped and said "Ok, Karen, just a minute" in exasperated voices.

The desk clerk gave us both the stink eye. Remembering this thread, I said "No, that is really her name." We all got a laugh.

Quote from: Gellchom on September 29, 2020, 02:19:21 pm

It's not as bad, but I also feel sorry for the guys named Sheldon.

There was a talk show host who used the name “Poindexter” to refer to nerdy guys who marry gold-diggers.
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Sheldon as a first name for men is quite rare I'd say. I know I've never met a man or boy named that.

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Quote from: Gellchom on September 29, 2020, 02:19:21 pm

It's not as bad, but I also feel sorry for the guys named Sheldon.

And women named Ebony 

I feel bad for women named Felicia.