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DaDancingPsych

Pandemic Baby Showers
« on: June 05, 2020, 08:03:34 am »
I received a baby shower invitation in the mail yesterday. Everything indicates that it's a tradition party with no adjustments concerning the pandemic. I am on the fence of how to handle it. Under normal circumstances, I would want to attend the August event, but depending on the recommendations at the time, I might prefer to skip it to avoid spread of the virus. The RSVP deadline is mid-July, but Brimstoners have taught me that I should reply ASAP.

I welcome any thoughts concerning my situation. (How you would make you decision.) But I also welcome thoughts on how this pandemic has changed shower etiquette (if at all.) Is it appropriate to wait things out to observe conditions prior to making a decision? Should I assume that a mask will be required? (What if I am wearing one and others are not?) If rates spike closer to the party is it appropriate to cancel (guest or host)? I just thought it might be interesting topic... and it might help me work through my decision, too!   ;D

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betty

Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 08:19:40 am »
I'd contact the host and let them know that you would like to attend, but are also concerned about covid-19.

You can ask what precautions they plan on having. Will everyone be wearing masks? Will there be space to spread out so you aren't close to one another? Will the festivities be outside or inside? If the host doesn't take your questions and concerns seriously, you will have a good idea that there won't be many precautions taken.

Let them know that you'll have to make your decision much closer to the actual date, because you won't be able to attend unless infection rates have gone way down (as we all hope they will).

You can also ask for the best address to ship a gift in the event that you can't attend in person.

If you have particular concerns (like you are at risk or care for someone who is, or you are more likely to be a carrier because you are working in public), you could mention that. But you don't have to give an excuse to follow good pandemic infection-control rules so don't feel like you need to justify your concerns.

Normally, most of this would be considered fairly rude. These are not normal times.

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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 08:56:38 am »
I would be even more cautious because it's a baby shower.  You know -- very pregnant lady carrying very special cargo!  There have sadly been at least a few cases of mothers contracting it and their babies dying shortly after birth.  I would be very reluctant to either throw or attend a shower, much less be the honoree, unless by that time the numbers are way, way down.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 10:32:52 am »
I agree with the above.  Contact the host and tell them what you told us.  August is a good ways off but you never know how these things work.  Better safe than sorry.
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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2020, 10:43:55 am »
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Normally, most of this would be considered fairly rude.

I'm not sure if even that is true. The principles of etiquette cover all eventualities! If it's not clear if one's own health will permit one to attend a future event, or whether travel to the event will be too difficult or dangerous, it's always perfectly legit to reply 'in principle I'd love to, but I won't know till nearer the time if I can - what's your deadline for a definite yes or no?'  And if the gathering itself has potential hazards or no-nos, it's also fine to ask, for example, 'Will there be any dogs there?' or 'can your caterers provide a halal meal'? before accepting.  These are pretty close parallels to the responses you suggested.
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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 11:38:41 am »
It is an interesting topic, too! Nice to have an etiquette one.

Some other answers to specific questions, at least, my own thoughts:
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Is it appropriate to wait things out to observe conditions prior to making a decision?
   Yes. In fact, I wouldn't even tell them I was waiting to decide; I'd just wait. I'd plug in a reminder on my calendar for a week before the event, and then I'd decide them, and RSVP.


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Should I assume that a mask will be required?
I think you should assume that any official restrictions or recommendations will be honored. And that all guests should be prepared to wear a mask.
   If you don't want to attend unless other people ARE wearing masks, that would be a question I'd ask the hostess before deciding: "It's important to me to be safe, so I'm wondering if you know whether people will be wearing masks."
    If she says no, you can decline at that point.
    If she says she thinks so or doesn't know, you can decide if you want to risk it. And if you arrive and there are not enough people wearing masks to keep you comfortable, you can give greetings at the door, wave a cheery goodbye, say "Sorry not to stay--I'm taking extra precautions, so I'm going to leave, but I hope you have a great time. Happy baby/wedding!"


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(What if I am wearing one and others are not?)
You can decide whether you want to leave or stay. I'm torn on whether you can ask people to wear masks. My vote would be to just leave instead; let them live with the consequence of not wearing the mask, and see if other people will make your point for you. (Sort of like, if you post something here, and people are arguing with you, it's a good idea to just wait and see if others will take up your cause.)

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If rates spike closer to the party is it appropriate to cancel (guest or host)?
Yes. Because safety trumps etiquette. Even before a sometimes-deadly, often-unpleasant easily spread virus, you could cancel because you are unwell.
    You don't have to go into a lot of stuff; you can just say, "I'm not feeling well, so I won't be able to attend." If you want, you CAN say, "I'm going to drop off the gift and wave from my car; I want to stay safe, and the surge in cases has me cautious."
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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2020, 01:19:30 pm »
I think you can ask what precautions might be taken and then decide whether you want to attend, but I don't think it would be appropriate to insist that any specific precautions be taken. If you don't like what is planned, send a gift (if you want to) and stay home.

I think a lot of people are to the point of not really believing anything they are being told about safety precautions for COVID-19, especially after the recent protests and riots. It seems government orders are being relaxed nationwide, although it is different all over the place. If you personally feel you need to follow certain safety precautions, you certainly should, but I don't think demanding other people follow your personal safety protocols is appropriate at this point.
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DaDancingPsych

Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2020, 03:49:12 pm »
It is an interesting topic, too! Nice to have an etiquette one.

I try!  ;)  I love hearing how different people view different situations.

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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2020, 01:32:01 pm »
Here's my thoughts.

To attend or not:
-Do I work or participate in actvities that causes me to be around lots of people? If yes, then I might decide to not attend to reduce risk of infectiont to the mom.
-Am I in a high risk category? If yes, I might ask about the number of expected guests and if they were taking any precautions. I think everyone will have the different level of tolerance for the number of people they are willing to be around at one time.
-Where is the event being hosted? If I nice outdoor garden party, I might feel like my risk is lower.  If at a banquet room in a hotel or restaurant, I'd probably feel there was a higher risk.

When to RSVP
I'd probably wait till the week of the mid July RSVP cut off. I think everyone is being more lax on making commitments and aren't expecting it from others.
If I knew the host well, I might send a text or note saying that I would be waiting till around that time to commit.

Changing your RSVP
If rates start spiking, yes, I agree that it is better to be conservative. I would think the hosts would be very understanding of last minute changes.

Wearing masks in social events
I am not yet comfortable with the idea of wearing masks at social events. The idea of pulling down a mask each time I take a sip of a drink or nosh on a few nuts seems very uninviting. If the hosts asked guests to wear masks, I would probably attend for a shorter amount of time.


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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2020, 04:23:19 pm »
Always such great, in-depth thoughts, Hmmm!

I had not even thought of the eating/drinking with a mask issue. How awkward and strange. I was more concerning about trying to converse with Aunt Gertrude who is hard of hearing to begin with!

I certainly hope that we will continue discussing, but I am thinking that I will not be attending. One of my jobs just contacted me and we will be returning to working onsite in July. The day before the shower is a planned event where I will likely be in contact with 100 (or more) people throughout the day. Unless the virus up and disappears, I think I would be bringing too much risk for the MTB and guests. Heck, I am not sure how comfortable I am with being in contact with so many people!!! I don't think it's fair to subject the others to that.
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Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2020, 09:46:15 am »
Always such great, in-depth thoughts, Hmmm!

I had not even thought of the eating/drinking with a mask issue. How awkward and strange. I was more concerning about trying to converse with Aunt Gertrude who is hard of hearing to begin with!

I certainly hope that we will continue discussing, but I am thinking that I will not be attending. One of my jobs just contacted me and we will be returning to working onsite in July. The day before the shower is a planned event where I will likely be in contact with 100 (or more) people throughout the day. Unless the virus up and disappears, I think I would be bringing too much risk for the MTB and guests. Heck, I am not sure how comfortable I am with being in contact with so many people!!! I don't think it's fair to subject the others to that.

Thanks, that is nice of you to say.

I'm in the midst of thinking through replanning of a wedding shower originally planned for May. The a few of the other hostesses think everyone will be ready to get back to normal socializing in August while others think we should hold off till October which is a month before the planned wedding. So your post was good timing to have me think through what would be factors that guests might consider when making a decision. I'm interested to hear everyone's opinions.

I'm surprised that a large event is being planned in August. But I guess we all will have to take the plunge eventually and go to large gatherings.

Right now, there is a family wedding that is still on the calendar for late August. They expect 250 guests. So that will probably be my first large event. It will be interesting to see if they ned up with less guests than expected.

DaDancingPsych

Re: Pandemic Baby Showers
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2020, 11:07:30 am »
I just saw a news segment talking about how to begin to expand your social interactions. One of my big take-aways was if possible do it outdoors. I would probably be more comfortable if the shower was held outside. In my part of the world, August has many nice days, although I would worry about heat (some days get very warm) and potential storms. A morning party might be less hot and may avoid the pop-up afternoon storms. October has a few nice days that would allow for an outdoor party, but many would be uncomfortably chilly. (We even get a bit of snow towards the end of the month.) But an afternoon party towards the beginning of the month may work out. But really you are always throwing the dice as any month can have a day that an outdoor party would not be feasible.

Being that your party has multiple hostess, I am assuming that the guest lists isn't small. Could you divide them up into different parties? I see issues with this, but just an idea to complicate things for you!