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LifeOnPluto

Responding to invitations with (positive) emojis
« on: July 04, 2020, 07:04:44 am »
An old friend of mine "Tina" was back in town this weekend. There were a group of us who used to spend a lot of time together around 10-15 years ago. We were in our twenties then, and now most of us are in our late thirties or early forties. Tina moved interstate about 10 years ago, and since then, the old group has largely moved on - many of us are married, some with kids, and most have moved to the suburbs, etc.

A couple of weeks ago, Tina sent a message via Facebook Messenger to the old gang (about ten people in total) saying that she'd be in town this weekend, and at "ABC Pub" in the city (an old haunt of ours) between 4-6pm on Saturday, and that she'd love to catch up with us all if we were free.

I responded to the group that DP and I would both be there. Another old friend (Liz) replied that she couldn't make it, but thanked Tina for the invitation. The other eight or so people mostly responded to Tina's post with emojis - thumbs up, and love hearts, etc. None of them actually said whether they'd make it or not.

Come today (Saturday) and DP and I were the only members of the old gang who turned up. We had a great time catching up with Tina (we were there for 3 hours, and the time flew by!) but I sensed Tina was a little disappointed that no one else had made it.

I can't help but feel that the people who responded with positive emojis were a bit rude - as they (the emojis) can be interpreted in different ways. Eg a thumbs up could mean "Sounds great, I'll be there!" or "Hey, haven't seen you in 10 years but it's lovely to hear from you" or "I have no intention of showing up, but I wish to show my vague appreciation for the fact that you're visiting our city". Frankly, if our old friends weren't intending to attend Tina's drinks, I think it would have been better if they hadn't responded at all, rather than with positive emojis which can be misleading.

What do people think? Is it ok to respond to an invitation with an emoji?

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Re: Responding to invitations with (positive) emojis
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2020, 07:13:07 am »
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What do people think? Is it ok to respond to an invitation with an emoji?

I think what your friends did was appalling.   For Pete's sake, would it take any longer to type a few words like "I'd love to see you again, but sorry we already have other plans."  or "We're social distancing and won't be able to make it.  But we'd love to see you and if you come this way again we'll be there with bells on our toes."
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2020, 07:39:43 am »
No it's not ok. They're treating the invitation like a comment instead of a question they need to answer. Like we all say at one time or another, "Use your words."

But you both learned something. Next time your friends use emojis as a response, follow up and ask exactly what they mean.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2020, 09:44:51 am »
While I certainly understand Tina's disappointment, I don't think the "invitation" she sent required an RSVP of any kind. 

Over the years, I've been the one to do the return to the old hometown visits.  I was astounded at the number of old friends who express a desire to see me, yet the only way they can manage is if I go to them.  They tell me "Anytime is good." when they're really only available for a couple hours on X night. 
Now, I've quit making the effort. 


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Re: Responding to invitations with (positive) emojis
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 10:41:34 am »
I'm glad you had a nice time catching up. I do think the best path would be for them to respond with some additional text. How hard is "sorry we can't make it".

But if a clicking a positive emoji is all they could handle, I think that is better than not responding at all.  I personally would assume any non-specific statement saying someone was attending would mean they were not planning to attend.

I do think if I were Tina, I'd probably have sent a follow up reminder text the day before and asking who would be joining. An informal invitation like that can easily be forgotten.

Can I also say, it is nice to hear of places that have pubs open and people can plan to visit with friends.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2020, 04:51:35 pm »
I don’t like it, but lately I’ve come to expect that a positive emoji is used to acknowledge something was seen. As in “glad that she’s in town” but absent the written out confirmation, I wouldn’t have expected them to turn up. More generally, people tend not to respond to group communicatuons unless they are actually willing to go or get involved. This is especially true in big group situations - the greater the number of people on the Text, the more people feel it’s ok to be a detached observer rather than participant.

Edited to add: also is usually more of a problem when the answer is no.  It’s like people don’t want to say it and effectively “ghost” that conversation
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Re: Responding to invitations with (positive) emojis
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2020, 05:06:46 pm »
I usually can't make a commitment until closer to the day but I wouldn't dream of replying with an emoji. I would reply with "I would love to catch up but will let you know closer to the day" and then when I could confirm or decline I would let them know either way.

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LifeOnPluto

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2020, 02:14:51 am »

Over the years, I've been the one to do the return to the old hometown visits.  I was astounded at the number of old friends who express a desire to see me, yet the only way they can manage is if I go to them.  They tell me "Anytime is good." when they're really only available for a couple hours on X night. 
Now, I've quit making the effort.

Ooh yes, I've experienced this too, during hometown visits. Most of my friends are great and pretty flexible, but there are a few of my old hometown friends (married with kids) who are like "I'm dying to see you again! Anytime and anywhere is good for a catch-up! Provided that it's between 9.30am-10.30am, because after that, Billy has his morning nap. And it has to be on a Friday, because on the other days we visit the zoo and the kids library. And we'll need to go to a kid-friendly cafe or playground, otherwise Billy will get bored." It gets old pretty quickly.


Can I also say, it is nice to hear of places that have pubs open and people can plan to visit with friends.

We have been very lucky in my (Australian) state. Up to 100 people can now gather in pubs and other venues.

I don’t like it, but lately I’ve come to expect that a positive emoji is used to acknowledge something was seen. As in “glad that she’s in town” but absent the written out confirmation, I wouldn’t have expected them to turn up. More generally, people tend not to respond to group communicatuons unless they are actually willing to go or get involved. This is especially true in big group situations - the greater the number of people on the Text, the more people feel it’s ok to be a detached observer rather than participant.

Edited to add: also is usually more of a problem when the answer is no. It’s like people don’t want to say it and effectively “ghost” that conversation

This is a very astute observation, especially the bolded. It's like a "thumbs up" or "love heart" emoji is a 'soft no'. But they don't actually want to come out and say it.



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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2020, 05:50:13 am »
Honestly, I foresaw the outcome. The thumbs up (or really any reaction) is more of a "I saw this" acknowledgement and not any sort of commitment. It seems like people don't want to decline invitations so they just don't reply. I have always thought it better to decline, but maybe the norm is that only positive RSVP's are necessary? Either way, I hope that Tina was not to disappointed; it sounds like she still got a great afternoon with you.
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Re: Responding to invitations with (positive) emojis
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2020, 05:29:46 pm »
While I certainly understand Tina's disappointment, I don't think the "invitation" she sent required an RSVP of any kind. 


I don't think that it was an actual invitation. Or, it certainly wasn't perceived as one, and I can't blame them.
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A couple of weeks ago, Tina sent a message via Facebook Messenger to the old gang (about ten people in total) saying that she'd be in town this weekend, and at "ABC Pub" in the city (an old haunt of ours) between 4-6pm on Saturday, and that she'd love to catch up with us all if we were free.

If you really want to see someone, you really should reach out to them directly. And arranging a gathering in a public place like that doesn't come across quite as much like an invitation as it does when you invite them somewhere more private (like your home) or in a smaller group (there's the whole thing where if a group is involved, people don't take personal responsibility--"Someone else is surely calling 911" or "some of the other people will be there to see Tina").

   Of course Tina had no choice, but the more individual and personal you make it, the more it will be perceived that way.

I do think it's hurtful, but I can't say it's against the rules.

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Such a great example of how old school etiquette makes life easier. A real invitation; a direct yes or no response within an allotted time beats a casual offer over text, hands down in my book.
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I think that the thumbs up is an acknowledgement of the comment than an agreement.  I certainly feel that the current viral issues would prevent a lot of people from wanting to hang out in a public place.  Keep in mind that in the past 4-6 weeks, virus numbers in many places escalated quickly. Something I might have considered several weeks ago is a definite "no way" at this moment. Plus the lack of child care may have prevented some people from attending, too.

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That was an invitation and deserved a yes or a no.  Those that gave a positive emoji also gave the impression (rightly or wrongly) that they at least planned to go (in my mind anyways).  Due to experience, I would not have counted on them though as this seems to be the usual.

One friend used to always say - I'll see!  or Maybe!!  and then I would end up re-asking close to the day, and it would be a no.  So I learned that anything other than a definite yes was a no.  And also not to invite her if the numbers really meant a lot (like for a small dinner party). 

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LifeonPluto's post makes me wonder if others have the same sort of dread that I do when asking people to get together.  I guess that you could say that it is just plain old fear of rejection.  In order to still make plans with people the type of invite that the visiting friend gave would have been something that I might do (probably wouldn't...).  It still would be a very big thing to make myself do, but a much lower stakes invitation.  Sending a group invitation is (imo) a bit less horrible. 

It bothers me when I do make an attempt to have to re-contact someone (therefore having to re-experience the fear of rejection),  or go and just hope for the best.  I would have been embarrassed if most didn't show up. 

This is why when I'm invited, I reply.  Because I worry that the other person is like me and will worry about it.  The thing that is the absolute worst is that someone will not want to come, but feels like they have to.  I'd rather a quick and polite no thank you I'm busy that day!!

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I do think if I were Tina, I'd probably have sent a follow up reminder text the day before and asking who would be joining. An informal invitation like that can easily be forgotten.

This is exactly what I was thinking.
Clicking the like (or other) emoji on Facebook is, in my experience, an acknowledgement that you viewed it and, well, liked it. It is not a positive reply to a conversation. So it doesn't surprise me at all that those folks didn't show up.

In future, Tina might word the invitation better by asking for a reply either way.
In any case, Tina might have been disappointed anyway, even if those we weren't going to be able to join in had replied on Facebook. But yeah, at least she would have had advance warning.