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DaDancingPsych

Too Many Ding Dongs?
« on: September 04, 2020, 04:44:24 pm »
Early in the week, I saw a neighborhood Facebook post "warning" everyone that the Verizon sales people were going door-to-door. Some posters were complaining that solicitors are not welcome in our neighborhood. Some were claiming that they had the proper paperwork, so it was fine. (I honestly don't know.) Some were claiming that they were sweet. Some were claiming that they were pushy. I didn't think I had much of a opinion on the issue, but appreciated the heads up that they were coming.

Wednesday, 2pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong. I'm still in my PJs working from home. I grab a jacket on my way to the door because I was not dressed properly to welcome guests. I peer out the peep hole and my guess is that they are the Verizon sales people. I'm not interested. I'm working. I'm not dress properly. So why bother listening to a sales pitch in the middle of a pandemic? I return to work and figured all was good.

Thursday, 2pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong. It felt like deja vu. But this HAD to be a neighbor wanting to know if I could move my car or to delivery my mail, right? Nope, same two people. Same exact situation. It's not worth my time. They must have been following up from the day before. I would have preferred if they would have left some information, but fine. I can let people do their job.

Friday, 2pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong. Ok, I know I'm going to see the same two people. I am deciding that those claiming that they are pushy might be accurate, so I simply go back to work.

Friday, 2:30pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong. I'm no longer feeling generous. These two should have gotten the hint right?

Friday, 5:00pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong. I am done with work, but still in my work PJ's. And these two uninvited individuals are again standing at my door in the middle of pandemic. I'm feeling harassed.

I hope that they are done for the evening. I hope that they are done for the next few days. But how many times is too many times for solicitors to ring? Because of the nature of the world, I can't be the only one who doesn't want to be disrupted during the day. If this wasn't 2020, I would not have been home at any of these times, so maybe this happens all the time. Are their business practices appropriate or am I being a fussy potential customer?

UPDATE: Friday, 6:00pm-ish: Ding Dong, Ding Dong.

« Last Edit: September 04, 2020, 04:56:53 pm by DaDancingPsych »

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oogyda

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2020, 05:07:01 pm »
I love that you have "work PJs".

I understand your annoyance, but I think if had answered the door to (politely) say you are not interested, they would not have continued to make the attempt.  They don't know you have been home all these times,  so they don't know you may be feeling "harrassed".

FTR:  I dont believe a person "has" to answer a doorbell, a ringing phone or a "hey you". 
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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2020, 05:23:28 pm »
If you don't want to confront these people in person (and neither would I), you could put a "no soliciting" poster on your door.
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ZekailleTasker

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2020, 06:06:45 pm »
Dada, I feel your pain.

We have 2 competing cable companies in our area and if you are with one, the other will send people to practically move in with you until you agree to change to their plan.  One of them was knocking on doors here and everyone was going to the door and saying no.  You would think that might stop them, but the same guy was back the next day and the next.  Sometimes at noon, sometimes at six p.m. sometimes early in the morning. 

I'd had it and went to the door wrapped in a towel directly from the shower.  Scarred the poor fellow for life.  "Uh--is this a bad time?"  "EVERY time is a bad time," I told him.  Next day I had to go out.  Came home, he'd left a flyer on my door.  I tossed it.  Same thing the next day. And the next. 

To be honest, I feel for these guys because they need the job and it's a thankless task, but holey moley, folks!  Catch a clue.
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Rose Red

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2020, 06:34:25 pm »
If you don't want to confront these people in person (and neither would I), you could put a "no soliciting" poster on your door.

I have one the says "No Soliciting. No Exceptions." Sure it doesn't stop some people, but it's rare.

OP, do you have a sign up?


DaDancingPsych

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2020, 08:30:38 pm »
Thanks everyone! It doesn't sound like anyone thus far feels that the sales people's behavior is excessive. I would hope that there is some point that we would find it tacky. None-the-less, their tactics have made me less interested in their services.  ::)

I totally agree that I have the power to put a stop to this... or at least could try. It's possible that if I actually answered that they would stop or slow down. (I say possible because one of the original Facebook posts claimed that they were not taking no's and kept returning. I don't have first-hand experience, but I can honestly say that they are persistent.) But at this point, I'm ok with my choices. If this continues into the weekend or next week, I may take some action.

ZekailleTasker, if I do do anything, I am using your idea. Bath towel it is! That's a funny story!!!

No Solicitation Signs: No, I do not have one. I always thought them to be ineffective.* Actually, I would have to check with my HOA if it's even allowed. They are pretty strict with signage; we are not allowed political signs, for sale/rent signs, or yard signs of any type. I suppose a creative door wreath might be a loophole! However, our community has a no solicitation sign at its entrance that they would have had to pass. However, apparently they have a solicitation permit from the township. I am not sure how that works, but that may void all signage.

Work PJ's: Thanks oogyda! My collection of work PJ's came about by accident. I bought some PJ's / lounge cloths earlier in the year for a trip that I took. I loved them so much that I bought a few extra pairs. I had no idea that I would spend so much time at home during 2020 and that they would serve as my main mode of dress! The first post-pandemic clothing that I will need to buy will be replacement (work) PJ's!!!

*I was actually speaking to someone who did door-to-door sales and she told me that her job was to ignore no soliciatation signs. Now, she was not the pushy, rule breaking type. She would take a no politely. However, she told me that she doesn't hesitate to ignore the signs.
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Rose Red

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2020, 09:45:50 pm »


*I was actually speaking to someone who did door-to-door sales and she told me that her job was to ignore no soliciatation signs. Now, she was not the pushy, rule breaking type. She would take a no politely. However, she told me that she doesn't hesitate to ignore the signs.

By ignoring signs, she *is* the pushy rule breaking type.

I politely point out the sign. Once.

I have anxiety. The doorbell makes me panic for a second even when I'm expecting someone. I have no problem shutting the door in a stranger's face without a word. I have done it a few times in the past.
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LifeOnPluto

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2020, 01:26:32 am »
I love that you have "work PJs".

I understand your annoyance, but I think if had answered the door to (politely) say you are not interested, they would not have continued to make the attempt.  They don't know you have been home all these times,  so they don't know you may be feeling "harrassed".

FTR:  I dont believe a person "has" to answer a doorbell, a ringing phone or a "hey you".

I tend to agree with this. Coming by six times in three days seems pretty pushy and excessive. But if you had briefly answered the door in the first place and declined their sales pitch, they (hopefully!) would have gotten the message that you weren't interested, and not come back.
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DaDancingPsych

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2020, 06:47:25 am »


*I was actually speaking to someone who did door-to-door sales and she told me that her job was to ignore no soliciatation signs. Now, she was not the pushy, rule breaking type. She would take a no politely. However, she told me that she doesn't hesitate to ignore the signs.

By ignoring signs, she *is* the pushy rule breaking type.


I can understand by only knowing this one thing about her why you would conclude that she was pushy. I don't think she liked ignoring the signs, but she knew it was part of the job. But the way she did the selling was very different from some. There were sales people who would make any promise to get the sale (even if they knew they could follow through). And she was always careful to sell the right product to the right person. Either way, I don't think defending my friend's character is necessary for this thread. My point was that just by hanging a sign does not guarantee that the sales calls would end. And my sense (and I could be completely wrong) is that these two Verizon sales people would not change their behavior due to a sign.
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Rose Red

Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2020, 07:13:39 am »
^ But you don't know if a sign will help or not. Try it once. If it works, great. If not, at least you know. Just because your friend ignores it doesn't mean everyone will. I only had maybe 2 or 3 sales people ring my doorbell in the 10 years after I out up my sign. And those were the roofing people who may be insurance scammers. The legitimate companies leave flyers which I much prefer.
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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2020, 09:35:10 am »
I used to have a sign by my door that said "this is a no solicitation neighborhood".  Someone came to my door.  I answered and pointed to the sign and said "did you read the sign".  And he said he didn't know what it meant.  I believed him.   Our neighborhood has such signage at all the entrances, but every once in awhile someone is going around ringing doorbells anyway.  If they say they have a city permit we just inform them that our neighborhood signs are approved by the city and overrides their permit.

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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2020, 05:06:55 pm »
^ But you don't know if a sign will help or not. Try it once. If it works, great. If not, at least you know. Just because your friend ignores it doesn't mean everyone will. I only had maybe 2 or 3 sales people ring my doorbell in the 10 years after I out up my sign. And those were the roofing people who may be insurance scammers. The legitimate companies leave flyers which I much prefer.

Also, in this case, if a "No Solicitation" sign appears after they've been ringing your doorbell daily, there's a chance they'll realize that this is a direct response to them (and you could take it back down after you think they've moved on, if you're not sure it's allowed). Even if they routinely ignore "No Solicitation" signs, if they notice you put one up due to them, it tends to communicate that 1) the occupant is aware they've been ringing the doorbell, 2) the occupant is not interested, and most importantly, 3) the occupant isn't even going to dignify their sales call by opening the door to tell them to go away face to face, meaning that ignoring the sign will not get them a chance to make their pitch. If they assume they've just been ringing the bell when no one was home, then they think they still have a chance--if they know you know they're there and simply aren't going to interact with them, they know trying again is just a waste of their time. (Granted, there are some people in the world who would want to annoy you just out of spite if they realized the sign was in response to them, but these folks don't seem inclined to stop until they're done with your area anyway, and I'd guess most door-to-door folks don't want to waste their time for zero chance of making a sale.)

I'm guessing they may be done anyway, though. Going from once a day to four times on Friday makes me think Friday may have been their last day in your neighborhood, so they were pulling out all the stops to try to catch the elusive Phantom Homeowner at home before they gave up.
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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2020, 07:18:29 pm »
Thanks everyone! It doesn't sound like anyone thus far feels that the sales people's behavior is excessive. I would hope that there is some point that we would find it tacky. None-the-less, their tactics have made me less interested in their services.  ::)

FTR, I think these salespeople's behavior is excessive.  Multiple attempts in one day?  Are they camped out in the neighborhood somewhere?
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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2020, 05:20:57 am »
We don't like to advertise that hubby works nights but have a sign on the door that says "do not disturb between 9am - 5pm except deliveries" ... we have the groceries delivered once a week and the odd packages. The odd time someone has been brave enough to knock I usually get the line 'oh that doesn't apply to me' then I shut the door in their face. On the days hubby is up between those hours it gets quite hilarious, he is a big and tall guy with a deep booming voice. He quite vocally asks if they have read the sign, they usually answer yes, then he asks why the hell they knocked not giving them a chance to answer he then escorts them off the property. The place we're in now has a gate with a padlock.
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Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 05:48:41 am »
I'm with oogyda in thinking that they have no way of knowing that you have been deliberately ignoring their ringing - you might have been away, or even be deaf. And it may well be that they are under corporate instructions to speak to every householder in the neighbourhood, or else. My advice would be to answer the door and say 'I know you're from Verizon, I know what you're selling, and the answer is no.' Then, if I'm right, they can tick the box with a sigh of relief, go away and never come back.
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