Bad Manners and Brimstone

Quote from: Jem on August 04, 2020, 11:22:22 am

Quote from: Gellchom on August 04, 2020, 10:42:33 am

That kind of thing, especially from community leaders, leads others to think that the precautions aren't really that important -- after all, if they're going out for ice cream, I guess I can go to a restaurant/salon/gym ...

If the local recommendations allow for people to go for ice cream, or to a restaurant, salon, gym or ____, then there is nothing wrong with people engaging in those activities. An individual can choose to not engage in such activities, or can decide to not be around other people for whatever reason, but I think it is unfair to act as though people doing what the guidelines allow are somehow "bad."

I didn’t say (or think) that they were “bad.”  I don’t think that’s a fair characterization of my post.

The recommendations at that time were to stay home except for essential reasons.  There were not legal prohibitions, though, so I guess you could say going for ice cream was “allowed.”

But that doesn’t make it good practice or responsible.  Coughing out into the air is “allowed,” too, as are plenty of things that are much more inconsiderate, selfish, dangerous, and irresponsible than making nonessential outings.

Anyway, as I thought I made clear in my post, I don’t think they did anything wrong in going for that ice cream. Sometimes you just have to make an exception.  I do, too.  I just thought they shouldn’t have made a point of advertising it. Which is kind of what I think about the OP’s story.  It’s not anything awful or “bad,” but it’s not what I think we should be modeling and encouraging, either.

I disagree with the bolded.  Just because it wasn't illegal, does not mean it was "allowed".....at all. 

And I do think what that family did was "bad".  Going for ice cream is not essential.  And it certainly didn't take all of them to get the ice cream especially since only dad went in the shop.  And more especially since they took it home to eat!

untagging is still not a guarantee

Or you could set your privacy on that post to "Friends except".  That will give you a drop down of all your friends and you would click on the button next to her name. 

After you blur out her face.

Quote from: oogyda on August 08, 2020, 08:26:49 pm

Or you could set your privacy on that post to "Friends except".  That will give you a drop down of all your friends and you would click on the button next to her name. 

After you blur out her face.

That would stop Barbara from being able to see it, but her objection was that other people would see it and "other people" still would and might say something to the effect of "Hey!  I saw the two of you really close together at such-and-such monument and not only were you standing close together, you weren't even wearing masks!  What's up with that?"  And that's what she's trying to avoid.

You're right.  But, OP said they have very few mutual fb friends, so she could include them in the "Friends except".

No, I don't think she was trying to cause trouble. Do you not feel that people should have the opportunity to reflect on their actions an then make a different decision? I'm not following why you'd put a bad spin on her behavior.

Barbara's first inclination was to join in the photo to create more of a festive image of two friends out. Later she realizes the image gives a bad impression of the afternoon. 

I personally think it is fair to allow our friends to take a step back and say "You know, that might not have been the best action. Let's not advertise this to our social groups."

What if we turned this around and it was Barbara coming and saying that she and a couple of friends spent the day out and hadn't followed good guidelines and she now regrets those actions. She's asked her friend to remove a photo on social media of them but knows the friend is really excited about being able to show a photo of her next to a landmark. Her friend is balking because she is prioritizing wanting to show her fun photo over being perceived negatively by their social group.  Is she in the wrong to ask for a photo that she is in to be taken down?