Author Topic: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either... (Read 1696 times)

Andi_3k · « **on:** December 08, 2020, 04:18:10 pm »

I’ll admit I may be biased against this person- she’s the one who sings.all.day.long- her newest thing is that we should not celebrate any holiday because “it’s offensive to her” so she wants no holiday parties, potluck s are out but we should not decorate desks, exchange cards or gifts among ourselves nor even exchange holiday greetings between each other or with customers.
My feeling is this is going too far, I am not sure how to even be civil much less gracious to her at this point

gramma dishes · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2020, 06:48:33 pm »

^^^ Please tell me you and everyone else is completely ignoring her!

oogyda · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2020, 06:55:32 pm »

It's not just you and your possible bias. And it's not just her.

It has completely gone too far in general. It seems like one person celebrating offends someone else. I liken it to something I heard elsewhere..

Basically, we can't let others have their thing if it's not our thing.

Our country was founded on the concept of "Freedom OF religion" not "Freedom FROM religion".

Edited to try to make a little more sense.

Andi_3k · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2020, 08:29:05 pm »

Quote from: gramma dishes on December 08, 2020, 06:48:33 pm

^^^ Please tell me you and everyone else is completely ignoring her!

I am - the PTB are placating he in that the company sponsored holiday festivities are now “Winter celebrations “ but I am planning on buying a dozen donuts and walking in tomorrow singing “ we wish you a Merry Christmas “ just because I can’t sing “I wish you a Merry National Pastry day “ but I take every opportunity to celebrate that I can.

Aleko · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2020, 01:19:43 am »

I suggest you respect her feelings and principles by sticking tape to the floor to mark off an area around her desk and labelling it a ‘Festivity-Free Zone’. Then everybody can decorate their own desks, give each other cards and go their merry way. Give her a piggy bank to keep on her desk, and tell her she can demand anyone puts a coin in it who thoughtlessly gives her a festive greeting, or hums ‘Jingle Bells’ or eats a mince pie with a foot in the banned zone.

Xainte · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2020, 07:39:30 am »

Certain types of people just want to see exactly how much they can get away with even if it's kind of a subconscious thing. Squeaky wheels who have been humoured a lot in the past are the worst. I don't know whether that's her or not but it sure sounds like it.

I think everyone should carry on as normal. If that normal is potlucks and desk decorating then do it!

Obviously nobody should go out of their way to goad her or anything - I mean I wouldn't give her any cards or holiday greetings but I wouldn't walk on eggshells around her either.

Kimpossible · « **Reply #6 on:** December 09, 2020, 09:40:18 am »

Quote from: Xainte on December 09, 2020, 07:39:30 am

Certain types of people just want to see exactly how much they can get away with even if it's kind of a subconscious thing. Squeaky wheels who have been humoured a lot in the past are the worst. I don't know whether that's her or not but it sure sounds like it.

I think everyone should carry on as normal. If that normal is potlucks and desk decorating then do it!

Obviously nobody should go out of their way to goad her or anything - I mean I wouldn't give her any cards or holiday greetings but I wouldn't walk on eggshells around her either.

Exactly this. Everyone shouldn't suffer because one person is against something. If they wish to be excluded, exclude them.

Hmmm · « **Reply #7 on:** December 09, 2020, 09:55:40 am »

I am not bothered by company or group sponsored events being billed as Winter Celebrations or just plain old "Holiday Party". I like the idea of it being inclusive of all celebrations. Even if a person does not celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Winter Solstice, they probably at least recognize New Year's Day according to the Western Calendar.

But I draw the line at someone saying that no recognition of the holiday season can occur. And a co-worker can not decide how I can decorate my office space. I think I'd be setting up a rotating holiday theme switching up to all the major events from mid December to post New Years.

Soop · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2020, 01:30:23 pm »

Quote from: Hmmm on December 09, 2020, 09:55:40 am

I am not bothered by company or group sponsored events being billed as Winter Celebrations or just plain old "Holiday Party". I like the idea of it being inclusive of all celebrations. Even if a person does not celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Winter Solstice, they probably at least recognize New Year's Day according to the Western Calendar.

But I draw the line at someone saying that no recognition of the holiday season can occur. And a co-worker can not decide how I can decorate my office space. I think I'd be setting up a rotating holiday theme switching up to all the major events from mid December to post New Years.

That's how it is at my office. We have a Holiday Party and Holiday Potluck and the cards are non-denominational. Makes sense, the company President is Jewish, we have a multi-cultural office, operate mostly in a very multi-cultural city. But we have Christmas decorations in the buildings and aren't stopped from putting up some Christmas (or other festive) decor in our cubicles (the only limit is the same as the rest of the year...keep it below the cubicle window level so the office doesn't look 'messy' when they bring investors through).

BeagleMommy · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2020, 01:32:46 pm »

In my office (at a Catholic university) we have employees who are Christian, Jewish, and Muslim. We hold a winter potluck before the university closes for Christmas break. Anyone who wants to participate is welcome. Those that don't want to are free not to do so. I tend to decorate my office for Christmas. If my decorations offend you, don't come in.

Your co-irker needs to learn that she is not in control of other people. If the PTB allow you to decorate and hold a party then go for it.

Rose Red · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2020, 01:52:55 pm »

My workplace have pretty cloth banners listing holidays of different faiths. We do have a Christmas tree in the lobby, but people can bring in symbols of their faith and culture to set up too.

We also have Jehovah Witnesses who don't celebrate, but we respect them and they respect us. We try not to be loud and "in their face." They understand people have holiday festivities.

Your coworker is just a pooper who is trying to control the majority

Amara · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2020, 02:22:20 pm »

I am a massive Christmas fan. And I enjoy it for all its worth. No one is going to stomp on that (or they might get trodden on by me as I hoist yet another wreath).

No, I'm don't overdo it and am sensitive to others at work (or when we go back to the office, hopefully by next year's holiday season). I do have a private office and I have a lovely tabletop tree, a huge dried boxwood wreath, and multiple--but tasteful--other decorations.Plus, I love my classical Christmas music like that by the London Symphony Orchestra or the annual Christmas in Vienna concerts, but I keep my door shut so no one who doesn't want to see or hear it has to.

However, on the outside of my door, which faces the hallway and which people see clearly as they enter the bathroom, I go mad. Not with decorations per so but with Internet images of cats and Christmas trees taped all over it. ( https://www.google.com/search?q=cats+and+christmas+trees&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjiya7N3MHtAhVLHzQIHZ7VBRoQ_AUoA3oECBQQBQ&biw=1334&bih=898&dpr=2 ) To insure that it is inclusive I include the message " Merry Catmas!" though I am sorry to say I don't include dogs and Christmas trees. I'll leave that to someone else.

Nikko-chan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2020, 06:33:52 pm »

.... y'all should decorate how you want. She doesnt need to decorate or whatever. I wouldn't even wish her a Happy anything. *Shrug* And if she complains just say you are going with her wishes.

Isisnin · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2020, 06:39:55 pm »

Quote from: Andi_3k on December 08, 2020, 08:29:05 pm

I am - the PTB are placating he in that the company sponsored holiday festivities are now “Winter celebrations “ but I am planning on buying a dozen donuts and walking in tomorrow singing “ we wish you a Merry Christmas “ just because I can’t sing “I wish you a Merry National Pastry day “ but I take every opportunity to celebrate that I can.

Good for you! If the PTB say anything to you, you could say something like "I am uncomfortable that you are not respecting my religion by not letting me observe it's tradition of gifting this time of year, but yet you require me to practice co-workers religion of not observing holidays."

Your company really shouldn't be requiring everyone observe only one person's religion or belief system.

Rho · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2020, 08:59:07 pm »

This
"I am uncomfortable that you are not respecting my religion by not letting me observe it's tradition of gifting this time of year, but yet you require me to practice co-workers religion of not observing holidays."

Co worker saying NO ONE is to observe holidays is the same as one person saying everyone else is to observe only HER holiday.
If your company is large enough for an HR dept---co owrker is creating a hostile work environment.

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