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Re: wearing black
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2020, 11:30:58 am »
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a famous cricketer.

Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a Hollywood party.  There were *multiple* articles in the press about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first thing I thought about when I saw this thread.

The marriage lasted two years.

I had never heard about this so did a search and found this recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
Interesting story.  Sounds like the cleavage (although she evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers, you might not even notice the color!  :)  But besides being inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another issue: attention-seeking.  As being a celebrity already inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.  I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.
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Re: wearing black
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2020, 12:48:04 pm »
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a famous cricketer.

Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a Hollywood party.  There were *multiple* articles in the press about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first thing I thought about when I saw this thread.

The marriage lasted two years.

I had never heard about this so did a search and found this recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
Interesting story.  Sounds like the cleavage (although she evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers, you might not even notice the color!  :)  But besides being inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another issue: attention-seeking.  As being a celebrity already inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.  I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.

I thought the dress was going to be awfully skimpy, but it's not too bad, especially if she wore a jacket in church. I agree the color is better for an evening wedding and reception, but I've seen guests in similar little black dresses at "regular people" weddings.
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Re: wearing black
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2020, 12:58:36 pm »

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You’re in the UK, though, right?  And aren’t most weddings in the daytime there?  Evening is much more common here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a daytime wedding, too. 

If there is a party at night, still no black?

Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s in a very remote location the majority of the guests can probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in. So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow. Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go home.

This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the U.S.

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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2020, 03:29:57 pm »
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a famous cricketer.

Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a Hollywood party.  There were *multiple* articles in the press about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first thing I thought about when I saw this thread.

The marriage lasted two years.

I had never heard about this so did a search and found this recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
Interesting story.  Sounds like the cleavage (although she evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers, you might not even notice the color!  :)  But besides being inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another issue: attention-seeking.  As being a celebrity already inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.  I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.

Yes, I wouldn't expect her to show up in a bag, but I think Raquel could have picked something pretty that didn't scream "Look at me!" The bride sounds like a lovely person.

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Re: wearing black
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2020, 04:57:51 pm »

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You’re in the UK, though, right?  And aren’t most weddings in the daytime there?  Evening is much more common here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a daytime wedding, too. 

If there is a party at night, still no black?

Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s in a very remote location the majority of the guests can probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in. So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow. Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go home.

This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the U.S.

The second bolded is true in my experience, too.  But then, the weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in the evening, as in the first bolded.  Is that gap common in your experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?

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Re: wearing black
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2020, 06:56:22 pm »

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You’re in the UK, though, right?  And aren’t most weddings in the daytime there?  Evening is much more common here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a daytime wedding, too. 

If there is a party at night, still no black?

Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s in a very remote location the majority of the guests can probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in. So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow. Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go home.

This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the U.S.

The second bolded is true in my experience, too.  But then, the weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in the evening, as in the first bolded.  Is that gap common in your experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?

In my area, it is only common at Catholic weddings. Many Catholic churches in my area not do a ceremony on Saturday evening because of Mass. But the couples still want an evening reception so have a few hour gap between the ceremonies. Of the few we've attended with a gap, it was pretty noticeable the number of people who skipped the wedding and only came to the reception.

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2020, 06:38:47 am »

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You’re in the UK, though, right?  And aren’t most weddings in the daytime there?  Evening is much more common here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a daytime wedding, too. 

If there is a party at night, still no black?

Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s in a very remote location the majority of the guests can probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in. So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow. Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go home.

This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the U.S.

The second bolded is true in my experience, too.  But then, the weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in the evening, as in the first bolded.  Is that gap common in your experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?
It's very common in weddings I've been to (I'm in Ontario, Canada). Ceremony early afternoon (say 1-ish), bridal party disappears for a few hours for pictures and then they greet everyone for the reception for dinner (around 6 or so). There may be something set up at parent's home for out of town people or suggestions given for local attractions (parks or whatever). At one cousin's wedding, the bride was from the Caribbean (I can't recall which island) and all her guests came in fairly somber church going clothes for the ceremony and during the gap went home and changed into super fancy party clothes. We on the groom's side felt rather under dressed.